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Post by Fnoord »

tomcam wrote: post #302
codekilla wrote: post #289

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Raising children with technology is certainly a challenge. I have 5 kids, oldest 8 years old, youngest 15 months, living in a condo in LA because...you know......f'ing real estate prices, single family homes with 1200 square feet are 1.3 million in our district. So how do you let kids be free if they can't even go outside really?...and multiple kids in a condo without some kind of T.V. or tablet is utter insanity. It…

I love that you had five kids. Kids are wonderful and our population is declining. You’re doing the best thing for yourself – and the best thing for society.

The worst thing you can do for the environment isn't flying; it is having a child. Having multiple, is, well.. X times worse.

Our population isn't declining either, as long as you watch it from Earth's PoV instead of whatever nation you're from.

I don't want to judge a specific person on having a number of children, and being the parent of one child I can't even fathom having five (!!!) but the general notions you made in conclusion to that I disagree with.

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Post by codekilla »

woolvalley wrote: post #319
codekilla wrote: post #300

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Fair enough question I suppose. I am a millennial, and I think many of our generation, and especially the younger generation are afraid of having more than say two or three kids, if they plan on having kids. This is certainly reasonable given the economic challenges we face and most principal among those housing costs. Short answer: We are punks I guess, we didn't want to let any of those economic factors dictate wha…

Are you doing something similar like the http://5kids1condo.com/ guy is? With shared bedrooms and such?

Wow, had no idea there were others writing a blog:). Yes, shared bedrooms, before when our place was smaller we had two in the living room.

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Post by autogn0me »

tomcam wrote: post #302
codekilla wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Raising children with technology is certainly a challenge. I have 5 kids, oldest 8 years old, youngest 15 months, living in a condo in LA because...you know......f'ing real estate prices, single family homes with 1200 square feet are 1.3 million in our district. So how do you let kids be free if they can't even go outside really?...and multiple kids in a condo without some kind of T.V. or tablet is utter insanity. It…

I love that you had five kids. Kids are wonderful and our population is declining. You’re doing the best thing for yourself – and the best thing for society.

Is it? Or is he a monster who brought 5 beings into a existence of suffering?

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/is-life-actually-wort...

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Post by Fnoord »

watwut wrote: post #304
codekilla wrote: post #289

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Raising children with technology is certainly a challenge. I have 5 kids, oldest 8 years old, youngest 15 months, living in a condo in LA because...you know......f'ing real estate prices, single family homes with 1200 square feet are 1.3 million in our district. So how do you let kids be free if they can't even go outside really?...and multiple kids in a condo without some kind of T.V. or tablet is utter insanity. It…

What do you think is benefit of fighting that pink? (Full disclosure: I hate pink and was shocked too over how much of it grandparents and such forced on us and in what way. But I am still curious about your reasons. )

Just for reference, pink was worn by boys until early-mid 20th century [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink#Modern_history

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Post by sametmax »

carapace wrote: post #253
alexanat wrote: post #166

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This is a wonderful idea. You mention Facebook - I think FB could be leveraged here as well.. perhaps a neighborhood group.

This is describing normal life before, say, seventy years ago.

Exactly. But you can't tell introvert geeks that. You need to present it like a life hack.

I know, because I used to be an introvert geek because Mali kicked my ass.

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Post by toyg »

sametmax wrote: post #132
toyg wrote: post #117

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That’s the thing: I’m very tempted to let my kids roam the neighborhood, like I did in Italy in the 80s. Where we live now, streets are pretty tight and have speed bumps, so it’s fairly safe. But if anybody gets nosey and calls child protection, I’m in a world of hurt from which I’ll probably never emerge. Yet another bit of the world ruined by Sun and Daily Mail.

There is a (painful, annoying and unfair) way around this. Actively socialize a lot with people in your neighborhood. Including the old lady next door, local cops, teachers and shop owners. And once you know 50 persons around by name and they have your phone number, tell them one by one that you intend to let your child going out more and more out by him/herself to learn autonomy. Ask them to not worry, but to keep a…

That would be easy if this were a mediterranean town, rather than northern suburbia. I do know my immediate neighbours, but going knocking farther away would look extremely weird, and possibly considered unwelcome in this brexit age. There are no shops immediately close (a big and very convenient supermarket made sure of that).

I do appreciate the method, I just find hard to believe that it can be put in practice in realities like mine.

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Post by sjs382 »

ikurei wrote: post #263
ashark wrote: post #73

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If your parents had eliminated screens when you were very young (including theirs) save maybe one publicly-placed crappy terminal for wikipedia or looking up business hours or maps or learning you some programming or whatever, but loosened the reigns on hang-outs and travel, do you think you'd have still felt isolated because all your friends were still online most of the time? Asking as a parent with three young kid…

This is probably one of the most important questions possible: How should I teach my kids? I was denied access to computers, and I don't think it did me any good. I'm 27, so a bit old for this topic, but my house was specially up to date bc of my dad's job. The internet was dangerous and diabolic in my mom's mind though, and my access to computers was extremely limited. This, I feel, made me want computers even more.…

I credit my parents restricting my internet access for my career, in a very weird and roundabout way.

My family got our first computer in 1998, when I was 13 years old. Nobody in my family was very computer literate at the time but they knew they could "ground" me from the computer by changing the Windows password.

Somewhere along the line (in a gaming magazine, probably) I stumbled an article about Slackware and Linux and later BeOS. I was determined to have access to the computer when I was grounded and my parents weren't home so I figured out how to download Slackware and BeOS floppies from friend's computers and get them working on our home PC.

Without all of this dedication to mischief and getting around the rules, I might still consider a computer just a terminal for sports news, games and email.

Breaking these rules and discovering Linux and the fact that I could write software without "doing crazy math problems" changed my life.

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Post by sctb »

magic_beans wrote: post #264
pwaai wrote: post #235

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> What is the alternative for more introverted people? Stay home? Come on now. There's literally FUCKTONS of stuff to do on your own. I had this existential crisis when I realized how shitty Vancouver nightlife is and that it was never going to get better. Here's a list of stuff that I'm working on alone, even in the most boring city in the world. It's a combination of high adrenaline activities with quiet solitude m…

Aren't you cool.

Would you mind posting civilly and substantively or not at all, please?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by sametmax »

toyg wrote: post #326
sametmax wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a (painful, annoying and unfair) way around this. Actively socialize a lot with people in your neighborhood. Including the old lady next door, local cops, teachers and shop owners. And once you know 50 persons around by name and they have your phone number, tell them one by one that you intend to let your child going out more and more out by him/herself to learn autonomy. Ask them to not worry, but to keep a…

That would be easy if this were a mediterranean town, rather than northern suburbia. I do know my immediate neighbours, but going knocking farther away would look extremely weird, and possibly considered unwelcome in this brexit age. There are no shops immediately close (a big and very convenient supermarket made sure of that). I do appreciate the method, I just find hard to believe that it can be put in practice in…

It's harder in your case, so it will take more time. 2 to 3 years maybe.

To find out where to start, ask yourself where your children are more likely to get caught alone and reported to CPS.

It will also require you go to clubs (sport club, book club), events (garage sell, protests, etc) or even to put them in motion.

Eventually, some thing that works very well is talking to people waiting with you. In queues, waiting rooms, at traffic lights or even traffic jams. It's awkward/annoying as hell when you do it wrong, but after a big of practice it's really a great source of networking.

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Post by MaxLeiter »

Totally anecdotal, but I'm a 17 year old in the Bay Area, and teens are partying more than they were when my older siblings (early and late 20's) grew up in the same area.

My point is that my experience isn't true for all, and I can't prove that it isn't true for the majority. This article is the same way - not enough statistical evidence to support it.

Like yes, teens get together with friends less often on a day-to-day basis. But what teens party on a day to day basis?

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