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Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by reaperducer »

indescions_2018 wrote: post #103
kumarvvr wrote: post #14

There is so much negativity about Tesla. Watching Tesla reminds of the the quote "We hoped for flying cars, but what we got was 140 characters" (or something similar, I don't remember it verbatim) Every time I think about Tesla, I am reminded of the thousands of brilliant engineers toiling away in Silicon Valley trying to optimize online advertising. Maybe we could be a bit more closer to Fusion energy, maybe we coul…

$TSLA will sell a lot of cars this year, irrevocably altering the EV game. Price target $350 by Jan 2019. But it pales in comparison to the watershed moment SpaceX and the entire spaceflight community will have. There is a real possibility for 28 launches, including two Falcon Heavy's. NASA TESS on track to discover an explosion in habitable zone exoplanets. Vector, Electron, TechShot and other private space data lea…

> NASA TESS on track to discover an explosion in habitable zone exoplanets.

Not a factor. Until we can travel many multiples faster than light, it doesn't matter how many things we can see far, far away.

You and I will both be centuries dead before that happens.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by arkh »

How much time spent charging?

Charging time is what make petrol win. Drive 500 miles, take 5mn to charge up and you're good for 500 more miles.

Until EV can do this (surely through charging stations like petrol cars) they won't good at anything more than daily commute if you can plug your car at at home and at work.

So battery technology is where the interest should be. We already know how to make efficient electric motors, we know how to make small vehicles. All wee need is fast charging energy stores. All some kind of electrical rails available on highways EV could use. Maybe setup specific separated lanes with no speed limit, EV rail but only if using some autonav which responds to the highway command to optimize the flow. Yes, you'd get something like trains for individuals.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by reaperducer »

lumberjack wrote: post #62
graphitezepp wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk DOES have a lot of support. I personally suspect much of the negativity comes from backlash caused by him having a legion of fanboys. Whenever someone gets idolized like I have often seen Musk as, haters come out in reaction.

Tesla's marketing is always misleading. That irks people and from there comes the "negativity". When the Model S came out, they tried to claim that they had "solved EVs". When they introduced their self driving tech, they pretty much implied that keeping your hands on the wheel was only a legal technicality. They are always trying to claim they are two more steps ahead than they really are. I understand that it is th…

>They are always trying to claim they are two more steps ahead than they really are.

Sounds like Google, Microsoft, and pretty much every tech startup between Palo Alto and Vancouver.

The difference is that Musk actually does something. Creates something. 90% of the other "tech" companies are just shoving around bits of other people's information and calling it innovation.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

lmm wrote: post #108
icelancer wrote: post #67

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Neil Armstrong didn't build the rockets or the shuttle so I guess he's also a bum.

Armstrong made his way up meritocratically on the strength of his piloting skills, to fighter pilot then carrier pilot then test pilot then astronaut. Many reckoned they wouldn't've been able to pull Gemini 8 out of the spin he got it out of, or successfully find a landing spot for Apollo 11 in the boulder field they descended on. Maybe Musk really is as skilled as all that. Or maybe he was lucky enough to make a lot…

> Maybe Musk really is as skilled as all that.

Whatever are his contributions to the rocket design these days (it's obviously a SpaceX secret), one can't deny that his ideas for future of humanity are the raison d'être and the driving force behind the company. He obviously hires engineers smarter than himself to do the work; his own engineering skills only add to the credibility of the company and its goals.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by maxxxxx »

lfowles wrote: post #100
maxxxxx wrote: post #82

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In short, it's a bunch of reckless rich assholes who have no respect for other people on the road. Go on a proper racetrack and show what you can do there.

A racetrack would be a completely different test of skill. From what I understand a cannonball run is largely planning and endurance. Edit: Not to discount the idea that it is reckless to do it on public roads...

The main skill of Cannonball is to be more reckless than others and see what you can get away with. I don't want to meet some sleep deprived and probably drugged up "racers" on the road. If they want endurance they can do a 24 hour race. If they want a difficult track they can go to the Nuerburgring in Germany and do the 24 our race there. Or just try it in the wet.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by vanderZwan »

InTheArena wrote: post #50

I drove the Model 3 last week. It’s a properly good car in it’s own right - It reminded me of the MOdel 3 from BMS in how it handles, of course the performance curve is totally different. The rethinking of the dashboard is perfect for the cell phone age. It’s Apple Good (back when Apple was good). The performance curve - the instant power at any point is addicting. The seats were comfortable, and the trunk space was…

Comments like this make me think the Model 3 is going to be the Ford Model T of electric cars.

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Post by sgc »

tgarma1234 wrote: post #46
timmonsjg wrote: post #39

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>People don't get a free pass on being creeps just because they are blowing a lot of money anymore The man wants his car designs to evoke an image of being sexy and you consider him a creep? That's a way over-dramatic interpretation.

Yes, if you overtly sexualize something for which there is no real reason to take the conversation in that direction then you are very likely a creep. They could have been cool cars but I just don't like that. Incidentally I was responding the comment that mentioned there is a lot of hate for Tesla. What I mostly don't like about Tesla, aside from that stupid naming convention, is that they missed all of their manufa…

I don't know where you are from, but it worth remembering that the use of the term "sexy" is much more commonplace for inanimate objects and has different connotations in the English speaking world outside the United States. And the CEO of the company in question was raised outside the US.

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Post by ep103 »

maxxxxx wrote: post #115
lfowles wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A racetrack would be a completely different test of skill. From what I understand a cannonball run is largely planning and endurance. Edit: Not to discount the idea that it is reckless to do it on public roads...

The main skill of Cannonball is to be more reckless than others and see what you can get away with. I don't want to meet some sleep deprived and probably drugged up "racers" on the road. If they want endurance they can do a 24 hour race. If they want a difficult track they can go to the Nuerburgring in Germany and do the 24 our race there. Or just try it in the wet.

Why doesn't the rest of humanity meet my expectations of what is acceptable?

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by falcolas »

Retric wrote: post #77
falcolas wrote: post #54

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Why does Elon Musk need popular support? He's not a politician who relies on popular support for his very job. He's not an actor who relies on popular support to bring money to his films. He's a CEO. All the support he needs is to deliver on his promises. From my exceptionally limited point of view, he's at about 35% there: Space X: 100% (Reusable, self-landing rockets. Fuck yeah!) Tesla: 40% (Prototype in decent sha…

I think you could add. Paypal: 75% (Much hate, still good option for many things.) Solar City: 75% (Over expanded, not sure if that was a bad thing and was bought by Tesla. Still it installed 870 MW of solar in 2015 alone.) Steve Jobs had close ties to fewer companies, Pixar, Apple, NeXT and did a similar purchase of NeXT by Apple. However, while dubious Apple greatly benefited from NeXt. So, I am willing to bet Sola…

As someone who has lost money to PayPal, I have a hard time agreeing with the 75%, especially when you consider all the caveats associated with it. That said, I won't argue the point.

I could swear that the rush for solar via Solar City has dropped precipitously. It seems like those who want it have it at this point. Its business model is also heavily dependent on US grants, and has seen some major downturns in terms of litigation and has been operating at a net loss for its lifetime. Let's put it closer to 50%

The boring company is simply trying to make underground highways - a task which makes very little practical sense in a world where highways already exist, and their downsides are well known. Not to mention, no execution or proof of concept exists.

As for the Hyperloop, again with the lack of execution or proof of concept. Anybody can make a whitepaper, but Elon Musk has put his weight behind the concept, to no practical end. But sure, let's remove it because you're right, he made no promises behind it; didn't start a company around it.

We're still only around 40%.

Re: Tesla Model 3 Sets New EV Cannonball Run Record

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Post by onychomys »

EwanToo wrote: post #13

I'm a Tesla fan, but in the middle of the article, it says: "The two completed the cross-country drive in 50 hours and 16 minutes, setting a new electric Cannonball Run record." That's not quite the same as the headline... It looks like petrol cars have done it in under 27 hours http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/03/ny-la-26-hours-28-m...

That record of 26:28 was an April Fool's Day hoax by Alex Roy, intended to publish as silly of an article as possible with the intent of showing that automotive journalists don't fact check enough: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/04/drove-2628-end-auto...
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