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Review: Copperhead OS

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Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by Tepix »

I love Copperhead OS on my Nexus 5X. Amazing battery life, great trustworthy apps and strong security. Frankly I think the project would be a lot more successful with lower prices. I'm willing to pay $50 per year for the OS, right now the price to get Copperhead OS installed on a Pixel phone is $400. That's just out of whack when taking into consideration the phone price (I paid around $180 for a used Nexus 5X a year ago) and the usual software prices. I guess I'm not the only one not buying a Pixel with Copperhead OS for that reason.

The Copperhead guys should get a copy of http://www.dummies.com/education/economics/how-to-determine-...

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by O_H_E »

notspanishflu wrote: post #40
JepZ wrote: post #26

Sometimes I am wondering what Google employees think when they read headlines like this one. I mean they probably have no problem giving the personal data to Google, but at the same time many of them are probably open source proponents and would support a world where the Google services would be entirely optional to Android. A few days ago I was thinking about a new smartphone and because my main problem with my curr…

My hope is in the Halium Project https://halium.org/ Now I'm running UBPorts in my Nexus 5 https://ubports.com/ Edit: if you are downvoting this comment, please explain why at least. It improves the conversation. Thank you.

So do you consider UBports stable on your phone

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by AJ007 »

kbenson wrote: post #38
bhnmmhmd wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes I don't understand all the hatred toward Google having our data on their servers. Most alternative solutions offer fragmented services (as opposed to the all-in-one experience I get with Google) and are too cumbersome to setup. Yes, I know data is sort of power these days. But before bashing at Google/Apple/Microsoft... and banning their services, people should ask themselves: "What sacrifices are they maki…

It's the competing incentives of a company that provides data services to end-user customers and a company that mines as much information about people to sell advertising to companies. Without strong controls about what they can do, we are always at the whim of what they might do. Google feels like a fairly bipolar company from the outside, because they present two faces depending on who they are dealing with, end-us…

What happens when someone steals your identity/credentials and gets to see all of that information Google, FB, etc have about you?

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by chrisper »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #58

The article mentions launchers; all the launchers in the app store seem sketchy. Does anyone know of a good Open Source launcher, maybe a version of the AOSP launcher compiled for current Android? I'd love to have something that reclaims the pile of space (thumb-reachable space even) devoted to the Google search bar that now stays on the bottom of the main screen all the time.

Nova launcher has a good reputation and is not bloat.

It's free and the prime one is affordable.

Just try it out.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by jonafato »

brightball wrote: post #54

Anyway to install this on an Amazon Fire tablet?

Unfortunately, it's currently only supported on a handful of devices [1], and that's not among them. Supposedly (based on some threads on /r/copperheados), Project Treble may improve this situation, but I haven't seen any new details on that front recently.

[1] https://copperhead.co/android/docs/install#supported-devices

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by loxs »

dublinben wrote: post #56
paulryanrogers wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of third party apps rely upon Google APIs which are not a part of ASOP

There are over a half billion Android users in China who are prevented from using any of Google Play Services, and they're still fine. AOSP may not be as fully featured as it could be, but it's clearly quite possible to use Android without Google.

They mostly have their own version of it, just developed by Chinese companies and controlled by the government. From what I have seen, it's quite on par with Google Play Services.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by jonafato »

YalpStore [1,2] makes getting Play Store apps a lot less painful than going through the process of extracting an APK from one phone and side loading it onto another. There are some that simply won't / don't work without Google Play Services, but most do. This made switching to Copperhead OS much easier for me.

[1] https://github.com/yeriomin/YalpStore

[2] https://f-droid.org/packages/com.github.yeriomin.yalpstore/

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

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Post by kbenson »

AJ007 wrote: post #63
kbenson wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the competing incentives of a company that provides data services to end-user customers and a company that mines as much information about people to sell advertising to companies. Without strong controls about what they can do, we are always at the whim of what they might do. Google feels like a fairly bipolar company from the outside, because they present two faces depending on who they are dealing with, end-us…

What happens when someone steals your identity/credentials and gets to see all of that information Google, FB, etc have about you?

It sucks. Hopefully, they are held accountable.

But do you honestly see an outcome where information is not collected at all? Because I don't, so as I see it we need to put the correct incentives in place to not only make it less likely but to handle when it inevitably does.

Maybe a fine up to $X per account leaked with a soft cap (but absolutely no less than $1 or $2 per account) is levied. Losing 1 million accounts would hurt, so companies would make real decisions about what and when to collect data for liability reasons, and protect it better in many cases when they did.

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