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Review: Copperhead OS

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Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#51
It's kind of hilarious that copperhead OS is considered de-googled when all the hw support and firmware updates still rely on google. After google drops hw support for a device copperhead discontinues support.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#52
post #26

Sometimes I am wondering what Google employees think when they read headlines like this one. I mean they probably have no problem giving the personal data to Google, but at the same time many of them are probably open source proponents and would support a world where the Google services would be entirely optional to Android. A few days ago I was thinking about a new smartphone and because my main problem with my curr…

Google services are entirely optional to Android. See AOSP. This criticism appears often on HN, despite how little sense it makes. If you don't like the data that Google Maps collects, simply use another map application. I delete all the useless Google apps off my phone as soon as I get it and keep only the ones that are actually useful.

Except AOSP doesn't even pass the Android certification [edit: should be compatibility, not certification] test suite, so stage one of building non-Google Android is making AOSP actually work as it should. :(

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google services are entirely optional to Android. See AOSP. This criticism appears often on HN, despite how little sense it makes. If you don't like the data that Google Maps collects, simply use another map application. I delete all the useless Google apps off my phone as soon as I get it and keep only the ones that are actually useful.

Except AOSP doesn't even pass the Android certification [edit: should be compatibility, not certification] test suite, so stage one of building non-Google Android is making AOSP actually work as it should. :(

What functionality is AOSP missing that is necessary to pass Android certification?

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#55

> do think it will happen, however. The use case involves corporations, especially those involved in privacy sensitive fields such as health care. Wouldn’t it be cool to have a locked down “business” VM that is separate from a “personal” VM with your Facebook, games and private stuff on it. This already exists for businesses with Samsung Knox / Android for Business. No it's not a full OS but it fits all of their need…

Sometimes I don't understand all the hatred toward Google having our data on their servers. Most alternative solutions offer fragmented services (as opposed to the all-in-one experience I get with Google) and are too cumbersome to setup. Yes, I know data is sort of power these days. But before bashing at Google/Apple/Microsoft... and banning their services, people should ask themselves: "What sacrifices are they maki…

I mean, I would totally feel convenient when my contacts are synced on my devices and I get a unified experience. Google knowing about my contacts is just the price I pay to get that service

Well, it's a question of what one is willing to pay. Me, I'm willing to pay actual U. S. dollars to Apple to get that same functionality without giving up (and perhaps I'm naive here) privacy. Personally, I like that well-defined transaction. The transaction that has taken place between yourself (and to some degree, me) and Google is much more fuzzy. Today Google does this with your data, but tomorrow? You call it "adjusting the service", I call it "getting more creepy". No right or wrong, you're happy, I'm happy, but from my POV there is a vast gulf in the price paid for the two competing services.

The instant Apple starts doing Googly stuff, I'll dump them for the real thing. But I'll betcha Apple is quite aware of this.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google services are entirely optional to Android. See AOSP. This criticism appears often on HN, despite how little sense it makes. If you don't like the data that Google Maps collects, simply use another map application. I delete all the useless Google apps off my phone as soon as I get it and keep only the ones that are actually useful.

Lots of third party apps rely upon Google APIs which are not a part of ASOP

There are over a half billion Android users in China who are prevented from using any of Google Play Services, and they're still fine.

AOSP may not be as fully featured as it could be, but it's clearly quite possible to use Android without Google.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google services are entirely optional to Android. See AOSP. This criticism appears often on HN, despite how little sense it makes. If you don't like the data that Google Maps collects, simply use another map application. I delete all the useless Google apps off my phone as soon as I get it and keep only the ones that are actually useful.

Except AOSP doesn't even pass the Android certification [edit: should be compatibility, not certification] test suite, so stage one of building non-Google Android is making AOSP actually work as it should. :(

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Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#58
The article mentions launchers; all the launchers in the app store seem sketchy. Does anyone know of a good Open Source launcher, maybe a version of the AOSP launcher compiled for current Android? I'd love to have something that reclaims the pile of space (thumb-reachable space even) devoted to the Google search bar that now stays on the bottom of the main screen all the time.

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google services are entirely optional to Android. See AOSP. This criticism appears often on HN, despite how little sense it makes. If you don't like the data that Google Maps collects, simply use another map application. I delete all the useless Google apps off my phone as soon as I get it and keep only the ones that are actually useful.

I've done this with all Google apps minus maps. Haven't found anything close to Google maps. Also how do I turn off location tracking by Google, constantly asking me to upload pictures, write a review, answer questions ect

Yes please! I understand you can disable the notifications in Maps settings, but that likely doesn't disable the constant location tracking.

Does anyone know how to disable this?

Re: Review: Copperhead OS

#60
post #2

Sadly it has turned its open source license into a code available but non-free one. That, coupled with the fact that Pixel devices are way more expensive than Nexus used to be limits its usefulness.

There's always LineageOS

is it completely de-googled though (even when play services are not installed)? Honest question. To me it seems as if that's not one of the main interests of the lineage community.

I do use lineageOS myself and am generally very content with it but I am always a bit concerned when I see that the data usage of OS components (which are thrown together as one "app" in the settings) is more than a few MB. The system must do more than just checking for updates. Unfortunately, you can't prevent system components from accessing the internet if you don't intend rooting your phone.

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