From the statement... "All rechargeable batteries are consumable components" If they are "consumable", why aren't they user replaceable. As far as I'm concerned any company that seals consumable parts inside a device isn't acting the interest of their users.
They can be replaced for $29.
A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Performance
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Maybe if they made their iPhones that fraction of a millimetre thicker, they'd have the courage to bring back a headphone jack into their $1000 phones.
I know it's not common for people to say this out loud, but I spent $1200 on an iPhone last month, and a. I don't care about a headphone jack, at all; I use Airpods and the experience is phenomenal b. Consider me crazy, but I actually like my phones getting smaller and lighter What if Apple is just making a phone for people like me, and is comfortable with those trade-offs?
a. Good luck when you run out of battery on your AirPods, or you loose one, or you forget them etc. It sure is nice to have the flexibility (Not to mention the much higher audio quality with proper iems/headpphones)
b. My X is considerably bigger and specially, heavier than my 6s.
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Your demonstrating the same ignorance the post you’re replying to is complaining about. It is not physically possible for the phone to draw sufficient power off a degraded battery to power it in high performance modes. The battery just doesn’t provide enough electrical current. Apple isn’t stepping back performance on degraded batteries to keep battery life. They are doing it to keep peak current draws at a level the…
I think you don’t read the comment. If the battery do not have enough power the level would be 0%. The time from 100%(plugged in) to 0% will depend on how degraded is the battery. It is not difficult to understand. You are repeating Apple excuses. Mobile phones had been dealing with degrading batteries for a long time.
The issue is the device shutting off while there is still charge on the battery, not the battery reaching 0% faster.
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#674As usual, the only thing that corporations listen to... is the threat of the dollar. They didn't give two craps about their policy until this week.
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#675Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know it's not common for people to say this out loud, but I spent $1200 on an iPhone last month, and a. I don't care about a headphone jack, at all; I use Airpods and the experience is phenomenal b. Consider me crazy, but I actually like my phones getting smaller and lighter What if Apple is just making a phone for people like me, and is comfortable with those trade-offs?
> I don't care about a headphone jack, at all Does "works for me" work for you as a reason for closing a software ticket? Built-in speakers and bluetooth are probably the most common audio output cases for me , and I suspect it's that way for most people. It's totally fine and probably a good idea to recognize that and improve the experience on that front. But complicating corner cases are a definite reality. If you'…
If you are a musician that can actually hear, Bluetooth headphones of any kind are a non-starter. It is mathematically impossible for BT to have sufficient dynamic range and low enough noise noise floor for classical strings, for instance. Bluetooth sets my teeth on edge.
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#676I think this is a good response, and I think a lot of the outrage over this issue is overblown. At the end of the day there's a fundamental tradeoff that Apple needs to make on behalf of their customers: performance or stability. They chose stability, and I think they have a convincing argument as to why: "It should go without saying that we think sudden, unexpected shutdowns are unacceptable. We don’t want any of ou…
The outrage doesn't seem overblown to me. For years I knew that my iphones were becoming obsolete not entirely from the passage of time but instead from upgrading the OS. Apple insisted they were not slowing down devices. Now they claim that they started this in iOS 10.2, without notification. My experience has been that upgrading the OS results in degraded performance 100% of the time. Whether intentional or not App…
They are however lowering the price to exchange batteries even for older models. Why would they do that if they where not affected? Why don't they say this practice started with the IOS 10 update? They just say they did it in the 10 update. For me it's obvious this is just a PR "puff piece" and looks like a majority here is buying it... So well played Apple.
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> This does nothing to compensate or win back the trust of customers like me. What is it that you want Apple to do to make you personally feel better?
It's a legitimate question. Frankly, the idea of a phone's performance drastically changing over the course of one(1) version upgrade should aggrivate someone more than this. How can it be acceptable for a single release to "slow a phone to a crawl"? This response makes sense. They screwed up communicating the issue of battery life to the masses that apparently don't know batteries wear out. They're fixing it, they'r…
That has never happened before, there was no precedent for that, and no way of knowing it was a battery issue. The only solution for most people was buying a new phone.
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#6782017 lawsuit claiming Apple broke FaceTime on iOS 6 to force users to upgrade to iOS 7. [1]
2015 lawsuit alleging iOS 9 degraded performance of iPhone 4s to force users to upgrade their device. [2]
2014 article from the New York Times showing how Google searches for "iPhone slow" coincide perfectly with the release of new devices. [3]
2013 Brazilian lawsuit claiming Apple could have implemented 4th gen iPad features on 3rd generation model. [4]
2013 article from the New York Times about performance degradation coinciding with Apple's release of iPhone 5. [5]
2011 article on Apple's "innovation" of a proprietary 5-point screw to thwart hardware upgrades on iPhone 4, Macbook Pro, and Macbook Air. [6]
2009 TC article on UI becoming sluggish, random restarts, device heating up (is this starting to sound familiar?). [7]
2008 Movie rentals not being available on 5th generation iPods which were released just months prior. [8]
I even found an article from 2005 complaining about the high cost of replacing the iPod battery ($250!). [9]
[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-lawsuit-facetime-id... [2] https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2015/12/31/apple-la... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/upshot/hold-the-phone-a-b... [4] http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/02/21/brazilian-lawsuit-... [5] http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/magazine/why-apple-wants-t... [6] https://www.ifixit.com/blog/2011/01/20/apples-diabolical-pla... [7] https://techcrunch.com/2009/06/04/the-short-lifespan-of-the-... [8] https://www.wired.com/2008/01/ipod-rentals/ [9] https://www.technewsworld.com/story/42328.html
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#679Earlier quoted context omitted.
You really want Apple to put a “Crash: on/off” checkbox in Settings?
Lol yes, it should totally say "crash" and then "true/false". In fact the user should have to type the string "true" or "false" in a text box rather than using a switch or check box. Fallacies involved in your response: strawman and false dichotomy.
Re: A Message to Our Customers about iPhone Batteries and Performance
#680Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your demonstrating the same ignorance the post you’re replying to is complaining about. It is not physically possible for the phone to draw sufficient power off a degraded battery to power it in high performance modes. The battery just doesn’t provide enough electrical current. Apple isn’t stepping back performance on degraded batteries to keep battery life. They are doing it to keep peak current draws at a level the…
I think you don’t read the comment. If the battery do not have enough power the level would be 0%. The time from 100%(plugged in) to 0% will depend on how degraded is the battery. It is not difficult to understand. You are repeating Apple excuses. Mobile phones had been dealing with degrading batteries for a long time.
“Voltage and mAh are two different, but interrelated, things. voltage is a measure of the electrical power a battery can deliver, while mAH (milli-Amp hours) is a measure of how long the battery will maintain usable voltage at a given output current.” https://www.quora.com/How-much-mAh-will-equal-to-1-v