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Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by baby »

relyio wrote: post #49
_wmd wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CCC is so heavily oversubscribed that there is an insane race every year when tickets are released, usually involving downtime for the ticketing app. If finding the app itself already presents too much effort for you (hint: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ccc%20tickets ), it's unlikely you'll succeed in acquiring a ticket. Your best bet is to source one through some affiliated group, if you know of one, otherwise s…

I attended a few years ago (28C3). Had a great time and gave my first (unofficial) talk ever there. Found people to be supportive and chill; maybe it had to do with the fact that I was rather young at the time. I don't know. That said, it is frustrating that they don't release the schedule weeks ahead. I was seriously thinking about attending but did not go through because conferences these days tend to have far less…

It's not just about the talks (they are livestreamed afterall, you don't have to go there to see them).

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by lawl »

this_user wrote: post #47
unixhero wrote: post #44

A very good set of talks at the congress this year. There's something for everyone in there. Can't wait to watch the streams. Hope they are persisted.

Raw dumps of the streams are usually uploaded within a few hours. Cleaned up versions will show up over the next couple of days.

Raw dumps and timeshift are available immediately: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive

Please use this instead of versions people are dumping on youtube and monetizing them and then the nicely cut versions not being found anymore because the algorithm thinks the official CCC version is a reupload.

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by xyzzyz »

beefield wrote: post #42
xyzzyz wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the difference is that you need to pay salaries in order for company to continue operating. If you don't, the employees will just quit. On the other hand, there's absolutely no need to pay anything to shareholders for a company to operate, other than legal obligation. Shareholders going on strike makes absolutely no difference for the company.

> you need to pay salaries in order for company to continue operating. If you don't, the employees will just quit. you need to get funding in order for company to continue operating. If you don't pay a decent return for the funding, you just won't get funded. > Shareholders going on strike makes absolutely no difference for the company. This applies only to companies that do not require capital to operate/grow.

No, you only pay the returns after you got funded. Except of contract enforcement in court, the investors have absolutely no way to force the company to pay up. That's what I meant by "legal obligations".

Of course, if you get yourself a reputation of not returning money to investors, you'll unlikely to get funded the next time, and if the investors have no way to force the company to pay dividends, they will fund few companies in the first place. The point is, maximizing salaries paid is a terrible metric, precisely because of bad incentives it creates.

> This applies only to companies that do not require capital to operate/grow.

But when they require capital to grow, you aren't returning the money to investors anyway -- what would be the point of that? The investors only expect the dividends once the capital needs of the company are satisfied, and once that happens, the company no longer needs the investors.

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by xyzzyz »

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC wrote: post #50
xyzzyz wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the difference is that you need to pay salaries in order for company to continue operating. If you don't, the employees will just quit. On the other hand, there's absolutely no need to pay anything to shareholders for a company to operate, other than legal obligation. Shareholders going on strike makes absolutely no difference for the company.

Well, except that shareholders are the ones who decide what to pay themselves, because it's their company?

Not necessarily -- the board decides that. Shareholders don't have anything directly to say as to how exactly company is operated, and for good reason -- if they did, they could be held liable for the company actions.

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by mino »

FiloSottile wrote: post #48
weinzierl wrote: post #12

I don't have much time this year, but the two talks I intend to watch are Squeezing a key through a carry bit by Filippo Valsorda [1] and LatticeHacks by Tanja Lange, Nadia Heninger and djb[2]. EDIT: Just saw that there is a talk by Maxim Goryachy and Mark Ermolov: Inside Intel Management Engine [3], can't miss that one. [1] https://events.ccc.de/congress/2017/Fahrplan/events/9021.htm... [2] https://events.ccc.de/con…

Speaker of the first one here :) thanks! There’s a stream recording here while we wait for the video release: http://streaming.media.ccc.de/34c3/relive/9021 Let me know if anyone has questions.

That's a great talk Filippo!

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by tonfa »

_wmd wrote: post #32
StavrosK wrote: post #28

Does anyone know how you can actually attend? The talks look interesting and I'd like to look into going next year, but I spent a few minutes online and on their site, blog and wiki, and couldn't even find where the damn thing is , let alone a ticket website! It's like they don't want people discovering it, I can't figure out why they don't have a more accessible marketing website.

CCC is so heavily oversubscribed that there is an insane race every year when tickets are released, usually involving downtime for the ticketing app. If finding the app itself already presents too much effort for you (hint: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ccc%20tickets ), it's unlikely you'll succeed in acquiring a ticket. Your best bet is to source one through some affiliated group, if you know of one, otherwise s…

At least on my twitter stream, there were people reselling tickets since they couldn't make it. Maybe another way to get one?

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by walshemj »

hamilyon2 wrote: post #29
xyzzyz wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the difference is that you need to pay salaries in order for company to continue operating. If you don't, the employees will just quit. On the other hand, there's absolutely no need to pay anything to shareholders for a company to operate, other than legal obligation. Shareholders going on strike makes absolutely no difference for the company.

Technically, you can tie dividends to, say 5% of salaries and make that unchangable clause in company rules. So, legal obligation, yes.

And how would you make a "unchangeable" rule companies can change the rules at a duly constituted meeting normally the AGM.

Re: 34th Chaos Communication Congress Live Streams

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Post by raimue »

StavrosK wrote: post #28

Does anyone know how you can actually attend? The talks look interesting and I'd like to look into going next year, but I spent a few minutes online and on their site, blog and wiki, and couldn't even find where the damn thing is , let alone a ticket website! It's like they don't want people discovering it, I can't figure out why they don't have a more accessible marketing website.

The best resource is the CCC Events Blog. The new location in Leipzig was announced in May and ticket presales were announced there in August.

https://events.ccc.de/

As the demand for tickets is always very high, tickets were first distributed only to local groups, hackerspaces and people who helped out the last years with a viral system. You could only buy a ticket with a voucher, which then granted you another voucher to give to a friend. The presale for everyone was in October/November at some fixed times, but the tickets were sold out within minutes.

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