Before I'm willing to condemn this I'd want to know a lot more about how it was actually used. Was it used as a weapon or simply as an available bullhorn or announcement/PA system? I don't recall any press at the time about serious crowd control problems or the "weapon" use of LRADs, and a quick bit of searching now also doesn't show anything like that. Even the article notes "military grade versions that can send vo…
DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Trump coined the term "fake news" Trump did not, in fact, coin the term “fake news”.
Didn't it mean satire, like the Daily Show and the Onion, before?
In German, Lügenpresse (lying press, literally) has the same origin and use (including the same resurgence through use by the alt-right)
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
the key is the u.s. is a representative democracy, not a direct democracy (only in certain elections). the strategy is to support representatives whose opinions you trust and speak persuasively to people to bring them on your side. To do this effectively, you must listen to them and understand their concerns. there is no quick-fix. you must perform this work at a slow and steady pace your entire life, never feeling c…
When you're given a choice of two candidates and neither of them represent your interests, and this happens time after time, I think it's fair to question the efficacy of the tack you're proposing.
Re: DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
#115Before I'm willing to condemn this I'd want to know a lot more about how it was actually used. Was it used as a weapon or simply as an available bullhorn or announcement/PA system? I don't recall any press at the time about serious crowd control problems or the "weapon" use of LRADs, and a quick bit of searching now also doesn't show anything like that. Even the article notes "military grade versions that can send vo…
You can watch this video as an example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSMyY3_dmrM
I understand that a LRAD can be used as a weapon, but was it or is the headline and article over the top?
Re: DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Didn't it mean satire, like the Daily Show and the Onion, before?
Fake news is a term invented by the Nazis during the 30s to describe media they disagreed with. In German, Lügenpresse (lying press, literally) has the same origin and use (including the same resurgence through use by the alt-right)
Re: DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
#117There are legitimate (IMHO) uses for these. For example, a crowd panics and people start getting trampled. An LRAD can be used to communicate directions quickly at long range to help stop the panic. The report sounds like the police were doing what they should be doing. Have the organizers of that March complained about police actions or disputed the report? If not, then I would tend to believe the report. If correct…
A sound cannon is not a loudspeaker, it's a weapon. If you want a loudspeaker, get a loudspeaker.
This thing is designed to inflict actual, serious, permanent damage to people mechanically, from a large standoff distance.
It's used to paralize combatants approaching a convoy. It shouldn't be used against crowds at home.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Didn't it mean satire, like the Daily Show and the Onion, before?
Fake news is a term invented by the Nazis during the 30s to describe media they disagreed with. In German, Lügenpresse (lying press, literally) has the same origin and use (including the same resurgence through use by the alt-right)
Re: DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fake news is a term invented by the Nazis during the 30s to describe media they disagreed with. In German, Lügenpresse (lying press, literally) has the same origin and use (including the same resurgence through use by the alt-right)
There is no alt right in Germany. We are dealing with a surge in far right activism, but those people are just that: Right wing extremists. It’s not a new phenomenon, it never went away completely.
Same ideology (which is distinct from the NPD), same marketing, same reasons for resurgence, and even similar sources of funding.
Re: DC police used sonic cannon to direct crowd flow during Women's March
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fake news is a term invented by the Nazis during the 30s to describe media they disagreed with. In German, Lügenpresse (lying press, literally) has the same origin and use (including the same resurgence through use by the alt-right)
A term can't be "invented" if it was in another language. Coining a term literally only has relevance in the language it's coined. The concept of an untrustworthy press is much older besides.