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Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say

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Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say

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Post by bluedino »

GVIrish wrote: post #15
chewz wrote: post #2

iPhones are technological marvels, masterpieces of engineering. But Apple software is getting worse and worse. I have recently started playing with my Mom’s phone which is some cheap Huawei Android and surprise - I can do the same on this phone as on iPhone - Google Maps, Google Photos, Google Inbox, Google Search, Google Allo, Google Drive, Firefox, bank applications, Spotify, MS Outlook - everything works OK. The f…

I have been using Nexus phones for about the last 5 years now, and I would say that a iPhone is clearly a better piece of hardware than a $100-200 Android phone. But for the top tier Android phones I'd agree that the reasons for paying the Apple premium are dwindling. Looking at something like the Essential phone that's retailing for $500, I think the many users would be hard-pressed to find an extra $500 of value ou…

>> then you look at a Pixel 2 XL, that's about $200 cheaper than the iPhone X

And that's where the iPhone 8+ comes in.

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Post by TimTheTinker »

1123581321 wrote: post #92
gruez wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Black Friday they were going for $150 brand new.

Can you link to this? I don’t think this deal happened because Apple doesn’t discount this heavily. Some of their partners might but only in exchange for phone service or something. The SE is $350/$450 USD new, not $250 like the above poster said.

I didn’t mean from Apple or an authorized reseller. Check Swappa - that’s where I got the above price.

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Post by chewz »

mcphage wrote: post #82
chewz wrote: post #2

iPhones are technological marvels, masterpieces of engineering. But Apple software is getting worse and worse. I have recently started playing with my Mom’s phone which is some cheap Huawei Android and surprise - I can do the same on this phone as on iPhone - Google Maps, Google Photos, Google Inbox, Google Search, Google Allo, Google Drive, Firefox, bank applications, Spotify, MS Outlook - everything works OK. The f…

If you're anything like me, losing out on iMessages will be painful. I'm itching to get back to iOS. Also being able to access all of the apps that I've purchased on my phone again will be a very nice plus.

I haven't been using iMessage for 2 years. And now I have unlimited SMS in most plans or taught my friends to use Allo.

Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say

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Post by sajithdilshan »

I have been using a Xaiomi Mi4i for a couple of months and at the beginning it was great. The camera was awesome and it was worth the 200$ I paid for it. But after few months it became slow and the storage became a bottleneck. After that I've switch to an iPhone SE and never looked back. I've been using if for almost a year and it is smooth and perfect for my day-to-day work and not to mention it is worth every penny I've paid for it. I think I'm gonna stick with it for a couple of years.

Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say

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Post by narag »

michaelmrose wrote: post #90
baddox wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that a terrible way to think about prices? Most people earn money at a predictable rate per month, so it’s perfectly reasonable to talk about these phone payment plans in the same terms. Obviously this isn’t true for things like credit card or mortgage payments, where interest is likely a significant factor, but AFAIK these cell phone payment plans are interest free.

It's an intellectually dishonest way to de-emphasise how much it costs in total by showing you the smaller monthly amount. You are basically using a marketing trick on yourself to justify the money spent.

I use the count-it-as-a-rental for several items, not often seen as such, like cars and phones. Yet I still own an S3mini, so not exactly a trick to spend much ;)

Edit: oh and I just bought a 20 y.o. car. My way of seeing it is useful in this case because I add the (very high) assurance rate, repairs and gas to get a realistic price. I predicted a reasonable car life and compared it with the numbers for a brand new car.

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Post by orf »

dfabulich wrote: post #11
olegkikin wrote: post #8

What do people buy $1000 smartphones for? For gaming I can get a pretty good gaming PC for that amount, or Xbox One X with a VR headset. I've never seen anybody do anything really cool with their phone - everyone browses the internet, checks the email, does chats/videochats, maps, take photos, and some silly mobile gaming. I do that all on my sub $200 phone.

JS-heavy sites are night-and-day faster on iOS, thanks primarily to faster CPUs (which is mostly due to better L2/L3 caches). The iPhone X has 8MB of L2 cache; your sub $200 phone likely has no L2 at all. Even high end Android phones have, at most, 1MB of L2 cache. This shows up pretty clearly in Speedometer scores. https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/android-benchmarks

My semi-budget android phone has 1.5mb of L2 cache.

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Post by [deleted] »

qaq wrote: post #73
dkrich wrote: post #21

I think market analysts continue to miss the mark on this story. What I keep hearing over and over are variations of "people are turned off by the $1,000 price tag." I think this is a complete misread. People don't pay $1k for an iPhone because it's the practical thing to do. If practicality is the #1 priority for phone shoppers, they will simply buy a 7 or 8. I don't think this comprises the top of the market, thoug…

In poor countries iPhone X could be considered a status symbol but in US?

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Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say

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Post by dkrich »

briandear wrote: post #75
valuearb wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get a new iPhone every 2-3 years. This year I spent $10 a month extra to get the best possible screen and camera on a device I use hours every day. Not because it’s a status symbol. And very happy with my purchase.

I work out of my house. I rarely go out in public (perhaps once a week to the store,) and I couldn’t possibly care less if people see my phone. I see my phone hours a day. I take a lot of photos, read a lot of ebooks and do a ton of stuff on my phone. My X purchase has zero to do with “status symbol.” It’s a childish and ridiculous assertion that “status symbol” is a primary motivator for a phone. A car on the other…

I’m sure you got yours because you genuinely like the product. That doesn’t make the assertion that lots of people’s motivations for owning one because it’s a status symbol childish. And I’m sure those people would deny that’s the reason, too. Would lots of people admit that they bought BMWs to impress other people?

What I saw on launch were lots and lots of people Tweeting and posting about having placed orders and then posting pictures of the box. Forgive me, but that’s not something you do if you just bought the phone for utilitarian reasons.

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Post by ghettoimp »

walterbell wrote: post #28
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #14

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As devices get faster, developers use more compute budget, leaving other devices in the dust. Developers write code against high-end devices.

Not if their site needs a large audience, e.g. ecommerce.

You would think so. But man, even sites like newegg and amazon would drag terribly on my old phone. And many news sites were sooo painful with all their ads.

Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say

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Post by 1123581321 »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #102
1123581321 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you link to this? I don’t think this deal happened because Apple doesn’t discount this heavily. Some of their partners might but only in exchange for phone service or something. The SE is $350/$450 USD new, not $250 like the above poster said.

I didn’t mean from Apple or an authorized reseller. Check Swappa - that’s where I got the above price.

Ah, ok! Yes, I’ve bought five iPhones on Swappa and Gazelle. I don’t think a used or third party refurb is an apples-to-apples comparison with a new X, though I prefer the SE. I’m hoping the SE 2 in the spring will have iPhone 8 internals.
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