Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say
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#2iPhones are technological marvels, masterpieces of engineering. But Apple software is getting worse and worse.
I have recently started playing with my Mom’s phone which is some cheap Huawei Android and surprise - I can do the same on this phone as on iPhone - Google Maps, Google Photos, Google Inbox, Google Search, Google Allo, Google Drive, Firefox, bank applications, Spotify, MS Outlook - everything works OK.
The feeling is liberating like discovering Linux after years of thinking that Windows is the only choice.
I have stoped using Apple Maps, Apple Music, Apple Photos, Apple Mail app, iCloud etc because they are all half-baked and frustrating. At least Google is trying harder with their software.
So what is the reason - excluding vanity - to pay 1000$ for a phone when I can have the same functionality for 100 - 200$. I will spend the difference on books, coffee and really good headphones.
Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say
#3iPhones are technological marvels, masterpieces of engineering. But Apple software is getting worse and worse. I have recently started playing with my Mom’s phone which is some cheap Huawei Android and surprise - I can do the same on this phone as on iPhone - Google Maps, Google Photos, Google Inbox, Google Search, Google Allo, Google Drive, Firefox, bank applications, Spotify, MS Outlook - everything works OK. The f…
Some areas iPhones excel in:
- LTS Updates
- HW quality
- Relatively consistent UX elements
- Foolproof-ish App store
- Less features
ie no App drawer, just homescreens
- Forefront of security & privacy technology
If iOS doesn't limit your glass-brick usage patterns, it's a very simple OS, with features that were thought about and picked for a reason. Or maybe more importantly, left out for a reason. This of course gets frustrating if you disagree with what Apple's designers have prescribed you.
But to a lot of people; Android phones these days feel creepy to be around, with the amount of Google-integration that requires much hoop-jumping and ignoring-of-gentle-pushes, just to get peace of mind over your data not being vacuumed from whatever crevices Google can find. And there are a lot of crevices on your personal smart phone.
If you're installing + maintaining LineageOS or something then you can get par with iPhones for the features that a lot of people in the HN crowd might care about, especially if you subsect for DDG-users.
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#4The non-metal rear back plate, and the absence of a headphone jack are really stiff turn-offs considering the price. Also, it’s kinda big and heavy in terms of the physical dimensions of the form factor, and besides, I’m just not that into photography.
Also, the whole thing with the batteries, and not so much the surreptitious performance throttling, but more the eternally non-swappable battery locked behind delicate ribbon leads inside the pentalobe-secured chasis.
So, sorted in preferential order (most desirable first), for an extra special X model, I’d have enjoyed seeing:
- the all metal, black gloss finish introduced with the iPhone 7 (yes i’ll be clapping inside some stupid mil-spec plastic envelope because it’s $1,000 but metal doesn’t shatter into a gritty spider web on a bad drop)
- normal wired headphones
- USB-C replacing the lightning port, because one less dongle for my macbook pro
- sane, toolless battery options, ...maybe a universal apple battery format? (yeah right)
- maybe smaller and pocket friendly? i dunno... maybe the bigger screen is nice to have...
- and whatever other extra crap they bundled in lately
Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say
#5iPhones are technological marvels, masterpieces of engineering. But Apple software is getting worse and worse. I have recently started playing with my Mom’s phone which is some cheap Huawei Android and surprise - I can do the same on this phone as on iPhone - Google Maps, Google Photos, Google Inbox, Google Search, Google Allo, Google Drive, Firefox, bank applications, Spotify, MS Outlook - everything works OK. The f…
Some areas iPhones excel in: - LTS Updates - HW quality - Relatively consistent UX elements - Foolproof-ish App store - Less features ie no App drawer, just homescreens - Forefront of security & privacy technology The 5s was released Oct 2013, and still received iOS 11. It was also the first(?) phone with a Secure-Enclave device for fingerprint reading. If iOS doesn't limit your glass-brick usage patterns, it's a ver…
>But to a lot of people; Android phones these days feel creepy to be around, with the amount of Google-integration that requires much hoop-jumping and ignoring-of-gentle-pushes, just to get peace of mind over your data not being vacuumed from whatever crevices Google can find. And there are a lot of crevices on your personal smart phone.
The way some people use their iPhone (my partner included) and all the (cr)Apps they have and what they do, it may as well be an android phoning home to google… also ignoring when its in airplane mode, telecos routinely connect through to the phone via baseband…
Even with all the conveniences, sometimes its just better to leave my phone at home… esp with all the times something is just trying to connect to apples servers.
Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say
#6iPhones are technological marvels, masterpieces of engineering. But Apple software is getting worse and worse. I have recently started playing with my Mom’s phone which is some cheap Huawei Android and surprise - I can do the same on this phone as on iPhone - Google Maps, Google Photos, Google Inbox, Google Search, Google Allo, Google Drive, Firefox, bank applications, Spotify, MS Outlook - everything works OK. The f…
Some areas iPhones excel in: - LTS Updates - HW quality - Relatively consistent UX elements - Foolproof-ish App store - Less features ie no App drawer, just homescreens - Forefront of security & privacy technology The 5s was released Oct 2013, and still received iOS 11. It was also the first(?) phone with a Secure-Enclave device for fingerprint reading. If iOS doesn't limit your glass-brick usage patterns, it's a ver…
I agree on hardware quality.
Security to me seems like a sales pitch - Apple is just as sensitive information greedy as Google. And I deal in this area with Google as well as I do with Apple.
But the inferior software quality is terrible drag for Apple.
Photos - their syncing with iCloud is out of control. There are bugs that haven’t been eliminated for years. I gave up when after deleting 50 GB of RAW photos Apple re-created then and synced back to mu Mac.
Google Photos is not only more open but also smarter and better at improving picture quality.
Apple Music - I gave up after a month of getting recommended Heavy Metal albums and playlusts everyday. Nothing in my Library, listening and followed artist suggested that I might like Metal. What kind of company can’t write simple recommender?
iCloud - Google Drive is just superior, more open, integrates and exchanges files with almost everything, Google Backup just works. iCloud backup is really inferior and again out of control for user.
Apple Mail stoped beeing developed and there are well documented frustrating bugs and quirks if you use IMAP accounts.
Maps - despite Tim Cook’s promise to users it never got on par with Google Maps. The quality difers wildly from country to country but recently I have re-installed Maps, used them for a week in my hometown and got so frustrated that I have deleted Maps and went back to using Google Maps.
Oh should I mention that touch interface is full of bugs. Try selecting a piece of text in iOS...
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#7I think a major mistake Apple made was assuming that it's iPhone base would be willing to accept change so quickly coupled with the fact that they charge 1000 dollars for the phone. I think psychologically , that number bothers people.
It would be interesting to see what age most iPhone users are. I know plenty of elderly people in their 70s and early 80s in the U.S., who have an iPhone because it is super simple to use. The iPhone X, with it's gestures, not so much, but what do I know.
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#8What do people buy $1000 smartphones for? For gaming I can get a pretty good gaming PC for that amount, or Xbox One X with a VR headset.
I've never seen anybody do anything really cool with their phone - everyone browses the internet, checks the email, does chats/videochats, maps, take photos, and some silly mobile gaming. I do that all on my sub $200 phone.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some areas iPhones excel in: - LTS Updates - HW quality - Relatively consistent UX elements - Foolproof-ish App store - Less features ie no App drawer, just homescreens - Forefront of security & privacy technology The 5s was released Oct 2013, and still received iOS 11. It was also the first(?) phone with a Secure-Enclave device for fingerprint reading. If iOS doesn't limit your glass-brick usage patterns, it's a ver…
> But to a lot of people; Android phones these days feel creepy to be around, with the amount of Google-integration that requires much hoop-jumping and ignoring-of-gentle-pushes, just to get peace of mind over your data not being vacuumed from whatever crevices Google can find. And there are a lot of crevices on your personal smart phone. The way some people use their iPhone (my partner included) and all the (cr)Apps…
> The way some people use their iPhone (my partner included) and all the (cr)Apps they have and what they do, it may as well be an android phoning home to google
The difference is that with the apps installed on a phone, you can uninstall the app. With Android you can't just "uninstall" the Play Store.
Re: Apple iPhone X Demand Limited, Wall Street Analysts Say
#10What do people buy $1000 smartphones for? For gaming I can get a pretty good gaming PC for that amount, or Xbox One X with a VR headset. I've never seen anybody do anything really cool with their phone - everyone browses the internet, checks the email, does chats/videochats, maps, take photos, and some silly mobile gaming. I do that all on my sub $200 phone.
> What do people buy $1000 smartphones for?
Consider the iPhone X a smartcamera instead of a smartphone.
Consider the "portraits in low light" at the end of the side-by-side comparison section that Vanessa Hand Orellana and Lexy Savvides did for CNET here:
https://www.cnet.com/news/iphone-x-vs-iphone-8-plus-is-the-c...