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Re: Ask HN: Has working remotely harmed your career growth?

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Starting next year, I plan on living in Thailand with girlfriend and daughter. From then on I plan to work remotely. We are currently building our house there and hopefully it will be finished around March. The house is pretty cheap and therefore will be paid for in full (no mortgage or loan). While I work remotely I will try to make savings of at least 300.000 USD in the next few years. These savings will be, for th…

How are you building or is your gf Thai? Isn’t there a law against foreign land ownership? I know it’s possible to rent land for 90 years, but seems risky.

The house will be full property of my girlfriend. She already had the land. But like I said, the house will be not very expensive, the costs to build the house are around 40.000 EUR.

Even if we ever would separate, I wouldn't want to fight over the house - she can keep it. I would rest easier knowing our daughter has a nice place to stay. I would just buy an apartment somewhere else in Thailand. Apartments can be full property of foreigners.

But of course I do hope we will stay together.

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If you plan to live up to 80 and take account of all health issues you might have by then I would say there is no upper limit on amount of money you need. So it is about the choice, life circumstances and some people like to advance, you don't have to.

There are countries where health care is guaranteed.

Basic health care, there is no magic in EU (I am not from US). Any savings that you will have can greatly improve your quality of life on retirement.

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I've had both positive and negative experiences at different companies. ProTip: It really helps when your manger is remote as well. It's harder to bias themselves to preferring local employees that way. Positive: I worked for a software company that had a solid mix of remote and co-located (in the office 3-4 days a week) employees. People and offices were located around the country. Since there were a solid number of…

We're distributed in 8 timezones and 10 countries. My cofounder and I started in SF, but I moved to Japan partially for this reason. I force remote first (and we've been like that since the start) the horror stories in this thread all sound like horrible mismanagement from companies trying to "add it on" rather than have it be a first class policy. We spread our decision makers across 4 countries and ensure that ther…

>I force remote first (and we've been like that since the start) the horror stories in this thread all sound like horrible mismanagement from companies trying to "add it on" rather than have it be a first class policy.

At the place where I had a positive experience, there were two major factors.

1) Since so many people were remote and some teams were spread across the world, everybody knew information had to be explicitly distributed. There was no assumption that something that came up in a meeting would be later discussed at a secondary meeting, lunch, in the kitchen area, etc. The benefit of this was that people generally knew what was going on in project relevant to them. There was minimal hoarding of relevant information, which helped everybody feel like they were plugged in and not working for a very hierarchical organization.

2) Almost everybody on my team respected, trusted, and liked each other. This meant that conversations weren't forced and people always tried to help each other. Calling somebody wasn't an issue and wasn't seen as an intrusion. There were none of the games you see when you have to work with people you don't trust. From a network perspective, this was great!

I notice that you're a cofounder so I state an observation. In times of stress for a company (e.g. a reorg) please over communicate. The company where I was working went through a massive reorg. Everybody maintained their previous level of communication, which was fine from a project perspective. But from a "What is really going on" and morale perspective, leadership did very little because they never had to do it before and didn't realize the value of it. To them, they were communicating as they always did. In actuality, there was an information vacuum and a failure in leadership. In a remote environment you're always fighting the feeling of being left out. It's easier to feel isolated, lost, and that information is being hidden from you. The leadership only reinforced this and lost a lot of good people.

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> 5 years is a lot, many times the average. This is incorrect as a general statement . I have reviewed several hundred resumes over the last 2 years on which software developers stayed at a company between 4 and 6 years as the median. In the Bay area 4 years is often the vesting schedule for people's first stock option (and it can be the biggest one people get) and I think that contributes. When I see a resume with a…

The average tenure in Google, Facebook and Amazon is 12 months. https://deeptalent.com/blog/tenure-length-tech-titans-compar... If you flag every people who stayed less than 2 years at a company, good luck, there won't be any resume left.

I know, from having worked at Google, why there is a peak at 12-18 months. I expect it exists at Facebook for a similar reason.

It isn't the one job with the 'short' duration I wonder about on a resume, it is a pattern of short duration jobs. That is a pattern that I ask about when I interview someone whose resume shows a lot of different jobs.

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The average tenure in Google, Facebook and Amazon is 12 months. https://deeptalent.com/blog/tenure-length-tech-titans-compar... If you flag every people who stayed less than 2 years at a company, good luck, there won't be any resume left.

I know, from having worked at Google, why there is a peak at 12-18 months. I expect it exists at Facebook for a similar reason. It isn't the one job with the 'short' duration I wonder about on a resume, it is a pattern of short duration jobs. That is a pattern that I ask about when I interview someone whose resume shows a lot of different jobs.

Why is the peak?

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We're distributed in 8 timezones and 10 countries. My cofounder and I started in SF, but I moved to Japan partially for this reason. I force remote first (and we've been like that since the start) the horror stories in this thread all sound like horrible mismanagement from companies trying to "add it on" rather than have it be a first class policy. We spread our decision makers across 4 countries and ensure that ther…

>I force remote first (and we've been like that since the start) the horror stories in this thread all sound like horrible mismanagement from companies trying to "add it on" rather than have it be a first class policy. At the place where I had a positive experience, there were two major factors. 1) Since so many people were remote and some teams were spread across the world, everybody knew information had to be expli…

I appreciate this. That's a lot of what we focus on now. We make sure that there's redundancy in communications.

We also make sure folks understand that mistakes are allowed, not communicating is not. It helps we hired a ton of folks from our open source community. It takes a certain kind of hire for this to work well.

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I've worked remote ranging from 100% to 30% most of my career. I've also built a business with 100% remote workers, and currently work for a "some people remote" business. My advice to anyone considering this is if you are currently in a company that is designed and built around face to face office communication - run, don't walk. You will almost always be a second class citizen that is slowly forgotten about. It's s…

What happened to your remote company?

Successfully sold it for a myriad of reasons, both personal and market based. Basically we were too small for our market and had to consolidate with another similar company.

The acquiring company was also 100% remote so it was a great fit, and the resulting combined company has been doing quite well since which is a point of selfish pride :)

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You're lucky. My office is upstairs, meaning the commute is downstairs to the kettle, then back upstairs to the desk, twice as long as yours!

Haha - My kettle is upstairs !! But then again, my wife (who also works part time from home) brings me my cups of tea...

You two made my day. My office is down the hallway but I'm rarely in it, wife thinks working from home means I have all day every day free to help her do x and y.

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Same here. I was remote for some years then went freelance. Now, I can never imagine going back to a regular job. Being on my own time has allowed me to spend as much time as I like with my newborn son. Did it hurt my career prospecs? Most likely. Would I change anything I'd I could do it again? Absolutely not. For some people their work is their life, for me, family is everything.

Great stuff! I commend your attitude and wish more people adopted it. Do you have any side projects cooking away as well? I just ask, because there's a chance you may end up with a big win late in your career which evens out the finances against a regular day job.

I dable in crypto (trading). I should probably not mention that here as HN will be down my throat in a jiffy haha.

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Starting next year, I plan on living in Thailand with girlfriend and daughter. From then on I plan to work remotely. We are currently building our house there and hopefully it will be finished around March. The house is pretty cheap and therefore will be paid for in full (no mortgage or loan). While I work remotely I will try to make savings of at least 300.000 USD in the next few years. These savings will be, for th…

How are you building or is your gf Thai? Isn’t there a law against foreign land ownership? I know it’s possible to rent land for 90 years, but seems risky.

It's 30 years. Pre-signed lease renewals aren't recognised in Thailand.

Your landlord can take the property back after 30 years, contract be damned.

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