This what happens when a basic sedan like a Volkswagen Passat plug-in starts at 450,000 NOK ($54,000), once you add even basic customization, fees and all the rest the on the road cost of a mid range sedan could be as much as Tesla 75d, since many Teslas come to Norway as secondary imports there are plenty of “refurbished” Model S 60d’s for less than that. Don’t get me wrong it’s neat that this is the case but this i…
Why ridiculous? After all, it's been put in place for the express purpose of reducing greenhouse gas emissions [1], and at least in Norway it seems to be effective. [1] https://ec.europa.eu/clima/policies/transport/vehicles/cars_...
Tesla becomes most popular automaker in Norway
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Re: Tesla becomes most popular automaker in Norway
#22In Oslo people complain that rich people in suburbs get Tesla just to avoid traffic jams and use public transport lines that electrical cars can also use. Yet for less fortunate folks who needs a family car non-electric cars are still the only option money wise. In principle they have a point. As battery is still extremely expensive it is cheaper to make a plugin hybrid that can drive like 50 kilometers on a battery…
It’s a bit like CRT vs LCD or HDD vs SSD. Eventually the reduced complexity or even weight of raw components are cheaper than counterparts.
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#23This is a repeat of a prior Tesla publicity stunt. What they do is they only ship cars to Norway quarterly, and by filling a big backlog of orders they then claim to be the most popular make in that month, which is technically true but also quite silly. You can clearly see on the graph in the article that the reason Tesla "sold" a ton of cars in September is because it sold almost none in August and July prior. And T…
Tesla is also subsidized by government, so it costs pretty much the same as a "general" kind of family car.
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#25This is a repeat of a prior Tesla publicity stunt. What they do is they only ship cars to Norway quarterly, and by filling a big backlog of orders they then claim to be the most popular make in that month, which is technically true but also quite silly. You can clearly see on the graph in the article that the reason Tesla "sold" a ton of cars in September is because it sold almost none in August and July prior. And T…
Tesla is also subsidized by government, so it costs pretty much the same as a "general" kind of family car.
Re: Tesla becomes most popular automaker in Norway
#26In Oslo people complain that rich people in suburbs get Tesla just to avoid traffic jams and use public transport lines that electrical cars can also use. Yet for less fortunate folks who needs a family car non-electric cars are still the only option money wise. In principle they have a point. As battery is still extremely expensive it is cheaper to make a plugin hybrid that can drive like 50 kilometers on a battery…
Dont you find it bizzare that adding extremely complex engine + drivetrain integration is cheaper than adding additional solid state battery storage? It’s a bit like CRT vs LCD or HDD vs SSD. Eventually the reduced complexity or even weight of raw components are cheaper than counterparts.
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#27The funny thing is, if there’s a country that practically would adopt electric cars last, it would be Norway. It’s got large distances and low prevailing temperatures, neither of which are favourable to electric cars. That’s how it would go if countries were equal. However, Norway’s a fairly enlightened and forward thinking place, so politically it’s not surprising they’re way ahead of the curve.
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Re: Tesla becomes most popular automaker in Norway
#28This is a repeat of a prior Tesla publicity stunt. What they do is they only ship cars to Norway quarterly, and by filling a big backlog of orders they then claim to be the most popular make in that month, which is technically true but also quite silly. You can clearly see on the graph in the article that the reason Tesla "sold" a ton of cars in September is because it sold almost none in August and July prior. And T…
Re: Tesla becomes most popular automaker in Norway
#29The high sales in December 2017 are easily explained because of the one-off tax proposed for 2018: https://www.ft.com/content/fe6b79d4-af31-11e7-aab9-abaa44b1e... Once Norway drops the tax advantages for EVs which is projected to happen somewhere past 2020 likely they'll be back to 'normal' quite quickly. Also, this is for new sales, the bulk of the fleet is still ICE's (68%), with the majority made up by VW, Toyota…
Re: Tesla becomes most popular automaker in Norway
#30This what happens when a basic sedan like a Volkswagen Passat plug-in starts at 450,000 NOK ($54,000), once you add even basic customization, fees and all the rest the on the road cost of a mid range sedan could be as much as Tesla 75d, since many Teslas come to Norway as secondary imports there are plenty of “refurbished” Model S 60d’s for less than that. Don’t get me wrong it’s neat that this is the case but this i…