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I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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post #177

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What alternatives to GMail do you recommend?

https://www.fastmail.com/ It costs $5/month if you want to use your own domain. I've pretty much stopped using Gmail, etc. and switched totally to them.

Do you find their web interface as good as Gmail?

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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https://www.fastmail.com/ It costs $5/month if you want to use your own domain. I've pretty much stopped using Gmail, etc. and switched totally to them.

Do you find their web interface as good as Gmail?

Yes, I do. The only thing I miss is tagging/archiving. Fastmail uses a traditional folder paradigm, and archiving only moves the message to a special archive folder.

Their login 2FA options are as good as Gmails, and I like their mail-rules better (though you have to drop into "power users" mode more than I'd like).

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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post #189

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https://www.fastmail.com/ It costs $5/month if you want to use your own domain. I've pretty much stopped using Gmail, etc. and switched totally to them.

How is their calendar?

I haven't used it as much, but it seems just as good for single-person use. It's WebDAV IIRC. I haven't tried to use any "shared calendar" features.

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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What alternatives to GMail do you recommend?

Honestly I think the answer to your question is: giant fail by the tech community, because to my knowledge there isn’t anything actually comparable, free or paid.

Fastmail certainly is comparable.

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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post #24

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If you're opening a new 2nd account, there isn't anything to "move", is there?

You have to update your email address with every person, service, mailing list, etc.. you use.

Just to provide one example - about a year ago I moved from a 12 year old Gmail address to another address/service. The lift for updating people, services, etc. really wasn’t that much. I left the gmail around and I do log in once a month or so but the last time I remember anything of interest coming there was maybe six months ago.

I also exported all of my emails from Gmail. I recall accessing them once maybe a month or two after the move, but since then I haven’t touched them.

In general I think people attach much more significance to things like email addresses and phone numbers than is necessary. Frankly I’d much rather things like that change from time to time so they aren’t so easily used as semi-permanent identifiers.

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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1) please check the rules of HN before replying that way 2) I did read the article, paying for Google Drive or Photos storage is not paying for Gmail.

1) Apologies 2) The article isn't about Gmail, it's about an entire Google account where the author stated they ARE paying for extra storage for Gmail and Drive -- where you seemed to imply they're not paying. And buying your own domain does nothing for getting access back to your 10,000's of past e-mails or your 100's of GB's of files you're paying to store.

> And buying your own domain does nothing for getting access back to your 10,000's of past e-mails

Now if only Google had a way to “take out” your data and made it trivial to have backups for emergencies.

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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post #102

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You'd be surprised for how many technology-inept users that wouldn't make a difference. They'll still mark the email as spam. It's easier for many people to understand and easier to click.

You are absolutely right, e.g. I marked Microsoft's MSDN emails as spam. But that was largely due to the fact that the unsubscribe link in their emails redirected me to an unreachable server for weeks and then I gave up.

If an email doesn't offer an unsubscribe link, or if that link doesn't immediately unsubscribe me without any extra clicks (e.g. takes me to an "update email preferences" page or, god forbid, asks me for my email address or other info), I click Report Spam for it.

Re: I got locked out of my Google account for a month

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I think this is the money quote: “That same day I opened a second GMail account so I could have access to services like an email account if need be, [...]” So, this journalist is in the middle of a horrible experience with Gmail and responds by ... opening another Gmail account, because basically realistically imagining email as something other than Gmail is far too much of a stretch in most people’s minds.

But a Google account is not just email. It's also drive, calendar, and so on. There's a lot of time spent becoming familiar with those services, and to up and switch that entire suite would take a massive amount of relearning. Under the same circumstances as the author, I think I'd be back to Google. Remember, other services have their own issues as well.

This is very much true. I built an ecosystem around Google because they work fine (usually). Rebuilding this for, say, Microsoft would be a tremendous effort.
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