Collaborating with xiaomi makes it rather fishy.
Pardon my ignorance, but why's that?
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#22Collaborating with xiaomi makes it rather fishy.
Indeed, given their Android One is preloaded with lots of bloatware and possibly spyware.
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#23Am I the only person who thinks Google specifically and the mobile app market in general combined with previously subsidized by carriers phones have completely destroyed the consumers perception of the value of software? It’s getting near impossible to find quality apps (even on iOS, but less so) available for a premium price, I have to constantly settle for IAPs to disable ads, or just free apps that are littered wi…
One of the consequences of iOS was the drop in quality Mac apps (this may possibly be my perception. I wonder if others feel the same). It seems to me what started happening was indie Mac shops who would sell their apps for $20-80 had to now support an iOS app as well and could not charge much, if anything, for it. So it was just an additional cost to be supported by their Mac app. Further, Apple released the Mac App…
I think the drop of Mac OS X going from $129 to zero probably had as much, if not more, to do with that.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Am I the only person who thinks Google specifically and the mobile app market in general combined with previously subsidized by carriers phones have completely destroyed the consumers perception of the value of software? Not entirely fair to Google here. No one would have purchased the original iPhone were it not heavily subsidized by AT&T. No one. One could argue that the same forces apply today regarding most pho…
"No one would have purchased the original iPhone were it not heavily subsidized by AT&T. No one." The original iPhone was not subsidized by AT&T at all. It cost about $500, had lines of people waiting to buy it, and went on to sell about 6 million units, making it one of the best selling phones of it's time.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Am I the only person who thinks Google specifically and the mobile app market in general combined with previously subsidized by carriers phones have completely destroyed the consumers perception of the value of software? Not entirely fair to Google here. No one would have purchased the original iPhone were it not heavily subsidized by AT&T. No one. One could argue that the same forces apply today regarding most pho…
"No one would have purchased the original iPhone were it not heavily subsidized by AT&T. No one." The original iPhone was not subsidized by AT&T at all. It cost about $500, had lines of people waiting to buy it, and went on to sell about 6 million units, making it one of the best selling phones of it's time.
I should have been clearer: it required a contract that AT&T offered lower data rates on the actual phone. This recovered the money they were paying to Apple IIRC. Still subsidized, but perhaps not explicitly on the phone itself.
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#27The founder's blog is a bit more interesting https://www.indidea.org/gael/blog/eelo-io-holiday-season-lat... with several posts prior on the project.
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I'd think most tech-able people would be able to; I've had Cyanogenmod on most of my Android phones, and it's been fairly straightforward to install. It's not too difficult to install LineageOS (on which this is based, the successor to CyanogenMod) on most phones - indeed there are step-by-step guides to do it which don't require too much skill to complete - and it's possible to run it without any of the Google Apps.…
i’m probably able to, but that doesn’t mean i want to... or that i want to spend the time to potentially brick my shiny new i/nexus/pixel
My shiny new Nougatized phone doesn't have the LineageOS privacy guard or file manager and I'm thinking of switching just for that.
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#29Am I the only person who thinks Google specifically and the mobile app market in general combined with previously subsidized by carriers phones have completely destroyed the consumers perception of the value of software? It’s getting near impossible to find quality apps (even on iOS, but less so) available for a premium price, I have to constantly settle for IAPs to disable ads, or just free apps that are littered wi…
While I don't disagree with you, I'm not sure what the problem with "I have to constantly settle for IAPs to disable ads" is? It's basically a form of shareware at that point?
It's too much of a hassle to create two versions of an app when only a small minority of users will pay for ad free.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Am I the only person who thinks Google specifically and the mobile app market in general combined with previously subsidized by carriers phones have completely destroyed the consumers perception of the value of software? Not entirely fair to Google here. No one would have purchased the original iPhone were it not heavily subsidized by AT&T. No one. One could argue that the same forces apply today regarding most pho…
"No one would have purchased the original iPhone were it not heavily subsidized by AT&T. No one." The original iPhone was not subsidized by AT&T at all. It cost about $500, had lines of people waiting to buy it, and went on to sell about 6 million units, making it one of the best selling phones of it's time.
I'm not agreeing with the grandparent either but I do have to admit that once carriers subsidised the iPhone, the sales skyrocketed. It can't be a coincidence.