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At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment

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Yesterday's "The Vice Guide to Right Now" podcast was about sexual harassment in the restaurant industry[1] Hypocrites. [1] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w3q3/sexual-harassment-...

Vice has different people saying and doing different things. It's not a monolithic entity. I'm not sure what might've given you the impression that is.

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That incident happened after a company event, isn't that considered private time? I mean, she would have had to agree to go with the co-worker, during their off-hours, in the first place and he might have interpreted her willingness to go along as a signal of mutual interest (romantic, sexual) in each other? That isn't meant as an excuse for such creepy, if not straight up criminal, behavior. But as somebody with som…

There's a very good rule here: unless you have done action X on at least 3 occasions with a given person, ask them before you do it. "May I hug/kiss/grope/whatever you?" If you've already done this on several occasions in the past, sure, use your discretion and interpret body language or subtle signs. Otherwise, ask. Period. No exceptions.

I've never heard of that rule, did you just make it up?

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> One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch. I have absolutely no idea why someone would think this is OK to do. Generally I can try to piece together how someone might rationalize their behavior but the best I can come up with on this one is: alcohol.

Me too. I've heard the "he grabbed my hand and to put it on his crotch in public" story before. Did people learn this from porn? Was it done in some John Cusack movie? Apparently penis in popcorn is a thing and it's from a movie. https://www.google.com/search?ei=wZs-WoqmLIKOjwO435PoCQ&q=pe...

Schools should probably start teaching kids how to appropriately make a pass at a girl. Most movies seem to show guys “courageously” lunging in randomly for a kiss. The advice a kid gets from his friend’s older brother is going to be much worse. I’m sure 12 year old boys would appreciate learning how to know if a girl likes them, how to get a girlfriend, how to go in for a kiss, etc. as that’s 97% of what they think about. And doing things the right way early on and seeing success would probably translate well to good behavior later on.

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Not sure why you're being downvoted. Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. It is a good question though: how long do you hold an organization responsible for someone or for their collective actions?

> Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. What does being left wing or right wing have to do with anything? We’re talking about sexual harassment, not politics. The majority if the recent high profile cases have been democrats doing the harassment btw.

Read two posts above you. We were talking about how one of the founders is a public racist, but how Vice's current editorial approach seems to have move passed that.

I don't think it's controversial that sexual misconduct is persistent across the political spectrum.

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I dont think these expose’s and #metoo campaigns are going to have the effect that they are going for. These things are merely exposing consequences (or lack thereof)

I think it is more likely that gender exclusive clubs will become more in vogue again, where they simply bus in the people willing to be objectified

Unfortunately There is nothing about this that is curbing behavior or desires, it is only showing the folly of gender diversity in the workplace. The additional liability incurred

Im not endorsing these observations, I and almost everyone will publicly say this is wrong, upvote how heinous people in power can be, but what I perceive of peoples desires are unchanged.

Re: At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment

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post #51

Yesterday's "The Vice Guide to Right Now" podcast was about sexual harassment in the restaurant industry[1] Hypocrites. [1] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59w3q3/sexual-harassment-...

Vice has different people saying and doing different things. It's not a monolithic entity. I'm not sure what might've given you the impression that is.

The entity is vice.com, not Viceland the cable channel, not Vice Magazine, not Vice News or Vice Films but vice.com the website.

Now look at how many articles on sexual harassment vice.com the website has published recently:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/topic/sexual-harassment

And yes someone has editorial control of vice.com.

Re: At Vice, Cutting-Edge Media and Allegations of Old-School Sexual Harassment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. It is a good question though: how long do you hold an organization responsible for someone or for their collective actions?

> Austin Walker (current editor in chief for Waypoint - Vice's Video Games site) is the walking antithesis of an alt-right bro. What does being left wing or right wing have to do with anything? We’re talking about sexual harassment, not politics. The majority if the recent high profile cases have been democrats doing the harassment btw.

Alt-right is way beyond right wing. Chances are high that if you label yourself alt-right, you're also drinking the sweet red pill poison.

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> In 2003 Vice reached a $25,000 settlement with the freelance writer Jessica Hopper. The deal involved defamation claims tied to an interview she did with the rapper Murs that was published in the February 2003 issue of the magazine, according to a copy of the agreement viewed by The Times. During the interview, Murs asked Ms. Hopper if he could have sex with her. She said no and included that answer in her article.…

I hope that she can get the appropriate justice. $25,000 is a pittance compared to the psychological trauma from having to relive the trauma over and over from being discussed. I mean, fuck man, why even become a lawyer if you are going to achieve such poor results? But I guess when you can't afford the same lawyers a large corporation can, its going to be an uphill battle. Especially now when the US courts is trendi…

humiliation surely, but 'trauma' sounds like a truly extreme stretch

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Seems pretty one way: > One woman said she was riding a Ferris wheel at Coney Island after a company event when a co-worker suddenly took her hand and put it on his crotch. So basically the letter the women sign is a license for certain men in a elevated position to assault women. I feel like this kind of shit puts us two steps back, especially when the American president is accused of similar behavior towards woman,…

> If the mainstream media wanted to destroy Vice once and for all, now seems like an appropriate opportunity. So I guess its well accepted now that "mainstream media" is not merely there to report what is going on but have active agendas to shape the world according to their wishes. It a weapon of destruction.

That’s been true since Watergate.
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