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Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

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Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

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I hope they install a lot of showers...

Stinking is actually a consequence of a sedentary lifestyle. With the right kind of cycling infrastructure, riding a bike in flat terrain is a low intensity exercise to which the body soon adapts. It can become quite relaxing and meditative. Exemplary video of cycling in the netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0QjASuuqI

Also somewhat a consequence of diet. I find I generally smell much better when I'm eating well.

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

#52
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stinking is actually a consequence of a sedentary lifestyle. With the right kind of cycling infrastructure, riding a bike in flat terrain is a low intensity exercise to which the body soon adapts. It can become quite relaxing and meditative. Exemplary video of cycling in the netherlands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb0QjASuuqI

> Stinking is actually a consequence of a sedentary lifestyle. any source for this extraordinary claim?

I believe your parent is alluding to the fact that if you are regularly active & get exercise, biking at an easy pace on flat land in good weather won't even cause you to break a sweat, whereas if you sit on the couch all day it will. (Hopefully don't need a source for this)

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

#53

Berlin is, in my experience, an incredibly walkable city. Get a U-Bahn pass, and you can go almost anywhere in an hour; with their double ring and relatively dense stops, and Prussian train, and even bus scheduling, it's a breeze. Especially compared to the shitshow in American cities.

The U-Bahn is good but many of the lines are quite old and the connections often too sparse, specially compared to other european capitals like Paris or Madrid. There are often very close areas that take surprisingly long to travel between without a bike. I always find traveling between northern Neukölln to the middle of Friedrischain somewhat annoying unless you are very close the ring or just grab the bike and cut through Gorli. There are lots of examples like that.

Plus I find the U-Bahn rather expensive (esp. considering how little investment it seems to get) with very few buying options (only bulk-ticket is 4 rides which saves you very little) and the ticket machines seem to be broken half of the time and the ones that work are slow as hell (takes like 3 minutes to print the damn tickets).

The only plus I see (e.g. compared to Madrid) is that the stations are not very deep underground and often over the ground so it helps people that are mildly claustrophobic.

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

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I was in Valencia (Spain) a few weeks back. This city is one of the most ideal cities I have been to for cycling; flat, perfect climate, riverbed running right through the middle of the city, spacious roads and high density. One of the inhabitants told me they dedicated cycling lanes a year back or so. That was visible: They had painted bicycle lanes right over roads & pedestrian areas. I guess when the Valencian peo…

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Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

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I was in Valencia (Spain) a few weeks back. This city is one of the most ideal cities I have been to for cycling; flat, perfect climate, riverbed running right through the middle of the city, spacious roads and high density. One of the inhabitants told me they dedicated cycling lanes a year back or so. That was visible: They had painted bicycle lanes right over roads & pedestrian areas. I guess when the Valencian peo…

> I guess when the Valencian people start to see how much fun cycling ones life makes, Valencia will become the cycling capital of the world soon enough.

Beijing and Amsterdam can probably make a better claim to that title. Valencia is on the right track though and I hope their project succeeds and will last.

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

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Just chiming in to say Valencia is LOVELY!!!! Such a fantastic, cheap, beautiful, beachy place to be.

Is it someplace you'd recommend living for a few months? From the US, always looking for new, interesting places to work remote from.

Absolutely. It's a beautiful place and lots of very friendly people. Another place that you probably wouldn't catch on to from abroad is Croatia, the coast there is a great and still relatively cheap place to set up for a couple of months - or years, it tends to stick.

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

#57

It's crazy to think: you design a city for people, rather than cars, and the city becomes more livable.

Many European cities are a bit lucky in that regard, they are much older than US or Australian cities. The European cities are built on top of plans that were made for pedestrians and horse carriages, with city walls and small streets. Muenster, for example, has a beautiful bike circle around the inner city because that's where the city walls used to be. US and Australian cities are much younger and don't have such '…

One nice example of a city that did not have that but where things worked out wonderfully is Helsinki, there is a bike path through a large chunk of the city on what used to be a railroad. It's totally out of the ordinary traffic recessed in the ground so out of the wind (not unimportant that far North).

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

#58

I was in Valencia (Spain) a few weeks back. This city is one of the most ideal cities I have been to for cycling; flat, perfect climate, riverbed running right through the middle of the city, spacious roads and high density. One of the inhabitants told me they dedicated cycling lanes a year back or so. That was visible: They had painted bicycle lanes right over roads & pedestrian areas. I guess when the Valencian peo…

If the cycling commute is flat, it has to be long to get decent exercise, because you have to apply a flat-out effort and you cover a lot of ground. If my bike commute were flat, I'd prefer to be some 14 miles from work rather than the current 7. Or else I would have to run it (more often).

To me, what would make an area ideal for cycling (if it has good roads and such) is: dry climate. No rain, no snow.

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

#59

The cities mentioned as being great for cyclists are Copenhagen and Amersterdam, and now Berlin is trying. What is interesting is that the countries these cities are in Denmark, Netherlands, and Germany have fertility rates of 1.7, 1.7, 1.5 births/female [0]. In other words, people aren't having that many children. When transporting children, cars become a whole lot more convenient than bicycles. You don't have to wo…

That's why we've got these:

https://www.christianiabikes.com/

https://www.babboe.nl/

They're so common that during the morning rush hour it seems like every other bike is a 'bakfiets'. They're a direct descendant of the old cargo delivery bikes from the previous century. There are two wheeled versions as well and then there are trailers to put behind normal bikes (though I don't like those much, because cars tend to overlook them due to their height).

Re: Berlin's Plan to Become a City for Cyclists

#60

Berlin is, in my experience, an incredibly walkable city. Get a U-Bahn pass, and you can go almost anywhere in an hour; with their double ring and relatively dense stops, and Prussian train, and even bus scheduling, it's a breeze. Especially compared to the shitshow in American cities.

The U-Bahn is good but many of the lines are quite old and the connections often too sparse, specially compared to other european capitals like Paris or Madrid. There are often very close areas that take surprisingly long to travel between without a bike. I always find traveling between northern Neukölln to the middle of Friedrischain somewhat annoying unless you are very close the ring or just grab the bike and cut…

I'm coming from Boston, and wilder areas where mass transit is atrocious if available, so Berlin is amazing. My other experiences in Paris or Amsterdam are inferior to Berlin.
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