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Re: Magic Leap One

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Post by jjeaff »

nine_k wrote: post #535
shimon wrote: post #262

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There are two reasons why the field is focused on gaming and not productivity: fidelity and familiarity. It's hard to build high-enough fidelity into the hardware at a reasonable price point. And even if you did make VR goggles that were great for giant spreadsheets at $1000, it would be a weird enough idea that it would have to be massively better than $1000 worth of monitors to get people interested. In gaming, on…

>> You could effectively work anywhere in any position, laying in a hammock, on a crowded train, at night in bed when inspiration hits > have to be massively better than $1000 worth of monitors Just read these two quotations, and you have the answer. Yes, high-resolution low-hassle googles would be massively better than 3-4 decent monitors for quite some people. At $500 for 2K resolution, that would be an instant hit…

That is why AR Would be the ultimate virtual screen tech. You could still glance down at your keyboard or even some post it notes on your desk.

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Post by PostOnce »

rasz wrote: post #577
evo_9 wrote: post #79

So is it still 1500 bucks? And I guess they don't remember Trip Hawkins overpriced bid at entertainment dominance, the 3DO? Cause this thing has a the whiff of 3DO all over it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_3DO_Company

3DO actually shipped, and had one very good game.

which game? An exclusive?

Star Control II was on other platforms, but was great on 3DO, http://sc2.sourceforge.net/ is free now and a deep game. Like 2D Mass Effect I thought. (Star Control II: The Ur-Quan Masters)

I also enjoyed Return Fire and PoliceNauts which are both available on other platforms also. Wing Commander III maybe?

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Post by bastawhiz »

iamleppert wrote: post #545
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>However, generally people who have billions to invest on high risk super high tech ideas aren't as stupid as people here would have you believe. Counterpoint: Theranos. Never assume investors are smarter than us mere mortals.

Very true about Theranos, but in that case they hadn't even revealed how the technology worked, and the claims they made implied not only a novel core technology but some kind of discovery in physics/science as well, by someone without a formal science background who couldn't explain the science behind her technology. How do you measure something that occurs once per million unless you collect at least a million samp…

I'm less skeptical about their display technology and more skeptical about the ML/computer vision and 3D rendering (for both eyes, as light fields) that they claim to cram into a tiny hockey puck along with a battery.

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Post by monkeywork »

botverse wrote: post #555
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> It's hard to build high-enough fidelity into the hardware at a reasonable price point. And even if you did make VR goggles that were great for giant spreadsheets at $1000, it would be a weird enough idea that it would have to be massively better than $1000 worth of monitors to get people interested. I doubt that. If you make a VR/AR/?R version of a Bloomberg terminal or Factset then finance firms will literally rol…

Excel have been dethroned in every bank by bespoke software, unless you are talking about a tiny scale.

I've worked / work for some of the largest banks in the world.. Excel has not gone anywhere..

Is it the best way? Hell no - but excel files still fly around on almost all meeting invites...

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Post by mileycyrusXOXO »

robwormald wrote: post #526
unobtaniumstool wrote: post #439

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It's absolute magic in person. The limited FOV is kind of a bummer, but tracking is rock solid.

I did the Mars demo at a conference a while back - the first couple of minutes I was underwhelmed, but at some point, my brain "bought-in" - I noticed this when I crouched down to look under a virtual rock outcropping without a second thought.

FYI the Mars demo is garbage. I suggest trying out Fragments for a better feel for the capabilities of the device.

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Post by nradov »

freehunter wrote: post #271
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Most office workers don't have a large, flat, solid, dark colored wall to look at. The reality of most office environments is that we're looking at co-workers, furniture, plants, windows, artwork, small cubicle walls, etc. If you have to rearrange offices to make AR usable then what's the point? Just give everyone a physical monitor. They're cheap. I doubt that white walls will work well for AR backgrounds because it…

I'll admit that it wouldn't work for offices with the open floorplan nonsense where across the table is another human face staring back at you, but in my experience as a consultant visiting dozens of different IT offices around the US every year, most office workers I meet are in cubicles where it's trivial to hang a black piece of paper up with some thumbtacks. Might not work for everyone, but it'd work for some peo…

Instead of tacking up a black piece of paper on the wall wouldn't it be better to just hang a monitor there? Flat panel monitors get larger, thinner, sharper, and cheaper every year. It's a lot easier to collaborate with colleagues when you can both look at the same physical monitor.

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Post by spyder »

IMTDb wrote: post #252
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The big problem there is resolution and the "Screen door" effect. Text has to be fairly large in order to be readable. We will need an enormous resolution and incredibly low dot pitch to solve those issues and make productivity tools possible. This is the tech space where I dream of working. I have been designing features for developer teams in AR but without the hardware being available, it's all theory.

That and the whole "how do you make stuff opaque". All the demo show semi-transparent object being added to the real world. Making text legible when you can't fully control the background on which it is display is very hard. My best guess is that if they don't advertise that use-case it is because they don't really feel ready to be judged on it.

Probably I'm missing something but I don't see this as a hard problem to solve because LCDs work by controlling the transparency of a pixel to let trough more or less background light and OLEDs don't need the background light to emit color so combining both you can have controlled transparency behind the color emitting pixels.
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