Google will turn on native ad-blocking in Chrome on February 15

Post by user5994461 » Wed, Dec 20, 2017, 6:53 PM UTC

betterunix2 wrote: post #148

user5994461 wrote: post #83

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Having IE pre installed is a necessary. How do you use the internet with nothing installed? What's next? We're going to force shipping cars without wheels. It's unfair to decide what brand people should use without their consent.

The EU forced Microsoft to give Windows users a choice of browsers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrowserChoice.eu Having IE preinstalled was not necessary; OEMs could have (and some did) preinstall other browsers. What happened was that Microsoft decided to base unrelated parts of Windows on IE so that their browser would have to be preinstalled (Windows would not function without it). There was top-level direction…

Post by user5994461 » Wed, Dec 20, 2017, 7:00 PM UTC

colanderman wrote: post #147

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Let's take TV as a comparison. On TV the ads have guidelines on what they can do and show, set by the tv channel and the broader regulation. On the internet, there isn't anything, it's the wild west. It can't hurt to get some minimal standards, doesn't matter where it comes from as long as it's enforced.

> set by the tv channel and the broader regulation. Which is key. Television ad regulations aren't set – and enforced – by the dominant advertisement broker.

Post by user5994461 » Wed, Dec 20, 2017, 7:08 PM UTC

vanadium wrote: post #144

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Having IE pre installed is a necessary. How do you use the internet with nothing installed? What's next? We're going to force shipping cars without wheels. It's unfair to decide what brand people should use without their consent.

You might remember this: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/eu-fines-microso... Of course, that ended not too long ago. While having IE was necessary to hit the web, it immediately presented the choices available.

Post by Sylos » Wed, Dec 20, 2017, 7:22 PM UTC

mtgx wrote: post #29

I wonder if this will be enabled on Chrome for mobile, too. Since Chrome doesn't have extensions, and therefore ublock origin, on mobile, Google has little incentive to enable it there. I assume they will enable it there, too, but you never know.

Post by jrnichols » Wed, Dec 20, 2017, 7:32 PM UTC

user5994461 wrote: post #154

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The fact that AdBlock receives money to break the very thing they're supposed to fix (at the user's expense) is pretty messed up. Sure, it's better than nothing, but that's really not saying much. There are better options out there that (currently) give you fine-grain control over what goes into your machine, so there is pretty much no reason to give over that control to a corrupt group.

I agree that AdBlock getting paid is messed up. I can't say that it entirely ruined the purpose though. My parents don't need fine controls. They just need something to block most of the malware, adware and popups. That's the world we live in.