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I can't not think about this Hyper-Reality video when AR advances are announced. https://vimeo.com/166807261

Hard to fathom why everyone is optimistic about this. Hasn't recent history overwhelmingly demonstrated that adding AR tech to out current culture will result in exactly the situation from the video?

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Opened the link on a mobile phone. Got a full screen image with the following text: "welcome to day one". OK, let's scroll a bit. This is the text that follows: "We're adding another dimension to computing. Where digital respects the physical." What's this site about? What's the product? I understand that designing a website is tricky, but - to me - this site seems an example of something aesthetically pleasing, but…

Just as bad on my iPad. The in-app browser hung and froze for a good twenty seconds. After it unfroze all the images were in a fuzzy low resolution and it took me an embarrassingly long amount of time (a couple of minutes, at least) to figure out what the heck it was all about.

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post #95

Opened the link on a mobile phone. Got a full screen image with the following text: "welcome to day one". OK, let's scroll a bit. This is the text that follows: "We're adding another dimension to computing. Where digital respects the physical." What's this site about? What's the product? I understand that designing a website is tricky, but - to me - this site seems an example of something aesthetically pleasing, but…

This kind of thing drives me crazy! But, for a small project that’s not obvious to anyone - this makes sense.

Look at Apple’s full iPhone landing page. It’d be silly to explain at the top “iPhone is a wireless digital communication device.” It’s obvious that dude is wearing glasses that look like AR/VR headset. You ain’t gotta spell it out for people.

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Btw. with my mobile Chrome I couldn't see much more than a large gradient on the first screen (before scrolling down) and the mobile view in my normal chrome looks much more impressive (similar to the desktop version) than the page I saw on my phone (via wifi). To me I looks like my phone triggered some bug while loading the page.

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So why does AR even exist? Is it too expensive to just have an outward facing camera (or 2 or 5) and re-render everything on the eye screens in real-time?

I'm so shocked at this question that I don't know how to answer it other than yes it is very expensive to render in high resolution high fov low latency

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not affiliated with Magic Leap. I do know for a fact though that they have many independent teams working to showcase this technology.

That doesn't really explain why they're not showcasing it yet.

To showcase it they'd need actual working hardware instead of 3D renders...

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This is going to sound super dumb and I haven't been following AR / VR at all...but I thought Magic Leap were creating AR technology that worked _without Goggles_? As in projected visible light that I could see with my naked eye? Am I mad?

Their promotion videos certainly made it seem like that.

More than 'seem', that is what their videos are. Those children screaming about that whale flipping around in their auditorium? They don't have any goggles on.

Their promo videos specifically promise that you could have a crowd of 100 people without the goggles on watching the Magic Leap effects.

They are liars.

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post #57

This is actually really exciting. Still not a lot of details on specs or pricing (which is what will ultimately determine whether this succeeds or not), but from what we've seen so far I think this is the first consumer-focused AR product which has the potential to gain a real substantial level of adoption. The Oculus Rift DK1 of AR, as it were. Though with recent advances in AR and VR tech, the Magic Leap doesn't se…

It's a "Creators edition", that doesn't sound cosumer focused at all.

> Abovitz' view that this first release of hardware is workable and good, could explain why they’re calling it the Magic Leap One: Creator Edition. To Magic Leap, creators are developers, brands, agencies, but also early adopter consumers. “The consumers who bought the first Mac, or the first PCs,” he says. “Everyone who would have bought the first iPod. It’s that kind of group. But it’s definitely not just a development kit. If you’re a consumer-creator you are going to be happy.”

Source: https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/features/lightwear-intro...

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TL;DR - it's cool. Lightfields are potentially a transformative tech (and this makes MagicLeap really different than other AR companies). We'll still have to wait until we get actual hardware to see how well it works.

I follow this space fairly closely, so here is some context for this.

The first thing to keep in mind about AR is that the "target" for all of these devices is really 5 to 10 years out when the assumption is that an AR goggles/device will replace smartphones.

This is why Google + everyone else are cool with dumping a billion+ dollars into MagicLeap, why FB bought Oculus (Yes, Oculus is currently a VR company, but Michael Abrash and others have publicly stated that is only because it's a more tractable problem than AR), etc. without an immediate payback / shipping device. How many trillions is owning the tech that replaces smartphones worth?

And there's a decent chance that MagicLeap will do this as they're taking a very different approach to the display technology than anyone else. Competitors like HoloLens, Meta, and about a dozen different smaller companies all have some version of a LCD display reflecting off an angled visor.

Meta - https://www.metavision.com/ - the design is like you took a baseball cap, glued a smartphone screen under the brim pointing down and then attached a plexiglass visor to reflect the images up at you.

HoloLens - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens - you can see similar things here with all their layers of visors.

This reflective LCD approach is well understood and in relative terms "cheap" (aka you can buy good LCD screens at volume b/c of the existing smartphone market), but the result is necessarily a very washed out image, it doesn't look real or solid.

What MagicLeap is doing display wise is something very different. Rony's first company (sold for $1.2B) used fiber optics for seeing what was happening inside of a person while they were getting surgery. Imagine a light + fiber in your heart and the fiber is "scanning" back and forth to get a picture of what the valves of your heart look like.

Now _flip_ that - so instead you have fiber optics projecting light into your eye and the resulting image is indistinguishable from reality b/c it's just more light.

The presumption and rumors all along have been that this lightfield tech is real and amazing enough to open the wallets of some of the smartest people on the planet - but initially required something like the arm+lens setup that you use at the optometrist and a massive gaming PC to make it work.

What MagicLeap has been doing with all this time and money has been trying to shrink this system down. There have been leaked reports of "backpack" setups that were more or less a battery and a PC motherboard zip tied to a person. This announcement at least draws a line in the sand with regards to shipping a portable lightfield product and it may turn out to really be something special.

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not affiliated with Magic Leap. I do know for a fact though that they have many independent teams working to showcase this technology.

That doesn't really explain why they're not showcasing it yet.

Helps to stunt some of the vaporware conspiracy theories though :)
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