This is not something new as I use chains of local proxy and cache proxy (Privoxy and Squid) on my PC with Firefox to block ads and tracker. The problem is Firefox has memory leak issue as it consumes ~2GB RAM while browsing Facebook or using addons like Ghostery or Adblock.
Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains
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If they don't want a € 10 million fine they have to comply with GDPR, even if no one is going to use it.
AFAIK, GDPR doesn't tell you there need to be an automated way to delete the data. If people can send you a mail with the request and you manually delete it, that's also fine. So if no one will use it, you basically don't have to do anything and be compliant (to this specific GDPR rule).
Sure, but if people use your service and some 0.01% of them might send a request just as a matter of principle once GDPR kicks in, then it's quite plausible that the cost efficient way to handle this is to have an automated solution rather than a manual process that doesn't scale.
Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
If they don't want a € 10 million fine they have to comply with GDPR, even if no one is going to use it.
AFAIK, GDPR doesn't tell you there need to be an automated way to delete the data. If people can send you a mail with the request and you manually delete it, that's also fine. So if no one will use it, you basically don't have to do anything and be compliant (to this specific GDPR rule).
From what I understand, as long as you can say there's a process in place (and could actually follow it) then you're compliant with the GDPR.
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Agreed, they make a good point, however, I think the terms of service are binding, and if what we're doing changes, we _must_ update them. This, of course, does not change the fact that we've collected a lot of data and it would suddenly fall under the new terms of service. With that said, I actively delete customer data on request, and a terms of service change like this _might_ (very reasonably) prompt someone to r…
I'll have a wild guess there: all devs and most managers have access to the full data set. Any disgruntled one could ex-filtrate it anywhere with not trace. That's the kind of things which make me for the vision of data as liability.
They should have internal security teams that monitor this
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I'm looking forward to the EU regulations kicking in and you having to get consent from everyone ou save data on.
Do you agree for us to save your data? [Yes] [Read more]
The other option, Closes tab, is simply not gonna happen so why annoy the user.
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> My company doesn't share or sell data with third parties (it's in our TOS – and could obviously change in some Orwellian future, but we'd have to update the TOS), it's the customer's data, they can use it in the same way they'd use any other data they collect. We don't do cross-domain tracking, or aggregate behavioral information across customers, and the way we've built it, it makes it pretty hard to tie any two v…
Nope, happy to fall on a sword if this happens though. Also – really bummed you got downvoted – this point is very valid and other folks in my position should take note.
@codezero, my point was not about falling on a sword. Rather it was that NH has this extreme naivete related to statements coming from those that do not have any real say.
How many people here think that data is removed from BI data lakes when a user deletes the account ( or at +N months )?
[Edit: Downvotes on this one also?]
Ask what happens to customer's data used by business intelligence when customer deletes the account in your company. Do it in email so it is in writing. It would be extremely illuminating.
Ask if what when a customer or your app acting on a behalf of your customer executes a DELETE against your API your API deletes the record or:
1) sets a deleted_at to now which your ORM treats as "deleted"
2) send a message to a queue (Customer XYZ deleted record P) which has multiple subscribers, one of which executes a deletion while the other one dumps the new state into a BI lake/archive dataset/what-if-a-customer-comes-back-would-not-we-want-to-be-able-to-give-them-all-their-data-back database?
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll have a wild guess there: all devs and most managers have access to the full data set. Any disgruntled one could ex-filtrate it anywhere with not trace. That's the kind of things which make me for the vision of data as liability.
They should have internal security teams that monitor this
Damn it. You owe me a new keyboard.
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Jesus. Really? Downvotes? Pretend this person worked for facebook and made some statement regarding what the company does. (a) he would be fired on the spot by the company itself ( as he is not authorized to speak on behalf of the company ) (b) he would be laughed out the room because he does not control company decisions The same applies to every single company. Every single one.
I have no idea what you're talking about. People from big tech companies say their opinion about what their company does all the time. Your comment was super rude.
Really? People at Google say that they know what Google does with data?!
Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains
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I block ads, analytics and 3rd party fonts. Almost every site works just fine.
I do the same (uBlock Origin) and almost every site works, but there are a still a few I need to whitelist because they do weird stuff, like triggering their own scripts to run from analytics callbacks. Airline and banking websites are a couple of common categories of sites I usually need to whitelist to work properly - that's not really an issue though as they don't usually have 3rd party ads.
Yeah I have a clean backup browser for the few sites that don't work and I still want to use. I'm always reminded how CRAP the internet has become.
Re: Firefox 57 delays requests to tracking domains
#210I work for an analytics company, this will affect my snippet – I don't think it is a big deal, but I'm going to benchmark it on a few sites. From what is described here, it may actually help us. When folks throw tons of tags into their site, we're all competing against each-other as well as the site's own loading – it makes sense to prioritize the site's rendering. I think of this as no more invasive than pre-caching…
> I can think of tons of ways to work around this if I thought it was a real issue, I don't. People who want to block analytics, trackers, ad networks, etc... know how, and this doesn't feel like it is targeted at those people, or even squarely at the tracking pixels.
A slow and shitty experience using the web shouldn't be the accepted baseline.
People who know how to block spyware can't block everything. There is a lot that causes the page to hang if not blocked in a certain way, provided that certain way is available via some kind of tooling.