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Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by egypturnash »

dsacco wrote: post #57
brango wrote: post #33

I'm sold on the whole UFO cover-up thing. If you peel back the social ridicule (very successfully induced by US government collaboration with Hollywood) and consider the huge number of circumstantial reports from across the military and non-military it seems pretty clear there's stuff in the skies of non-human origin. Historical art suggests they've been flying for centuries. There's also the publicly acknowledged re…

I’m open minded to what you’re saying, and I agree that dismissing alien contact due to popular zeitgeist is silly. But here’s my problem with what you’re saying: where did they come from then, and how did they get here? Why do we not have any evidence of their planet in any reasonable distance from Earth? Given what we understand about modern physics, we have three conclusions we can arrive at: 1. We fundamentally m…

4. The entire world is a simulation and UFOs are moving around in debug mode. The size of the simulation could be anywhere from the entire universe to the Solar System (or less, if you can come up with a plausible reason why the Pioneer probes appear to continue to operate despite being outside of a smaller simulation volume).

Occam's Razor would throw that one out too of course.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by gregmac »

icc97 wrote: post #67
cattown wrote: post #37

Entertaining, almost convincing. I want to believe. However we know it is one of... * A hoax, like hundreds of other videos of UFO sightings. * One branch of the military testing a piece of equipment another branch is not able to identify. * A video showing an actual space craft built by aliens from another planet. Consider which of these is most likely and which is least likely. Consider also that extraordinary clai…

The whole point is because its from the military (which I hope the BBC verified), then it's supposed to rule out 1 or 2. It's basically a filler story that the BBC news would put on at the end of the news along the lines of "little boy saves hamster".

If it's a secret experimental aircraft and you're afraid of a 3rd party leak, isn't it better to get ahead of that, release the video yourself and then say it isn't yours? Let the media and general population come to their own conclusions, wildly speculating about UFOs.

Nothing here says the audio is even genuine.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by kyriakos »

dragonwriter wrote: post #91
0xFFC wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a totally unrelated comment, I want to say, one reason why I find the UFO thing interested is in hypothetical situation if we can have proofs of existence of aliens, all those nonsense, ridiculous religions (like Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc) would be horseshit to common people. With a simple question of : “Why your God only sent his prophet to earth?”

> one reason why I find the UFO thing interested is in hypothetical situation if we can have proofs of existence of aliens, all those nonsense, ridiculous religions (like Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc) would be horseshit to common people. With a simple question of : “Why your God only sent his prophet to earth?” How is that question substantively any different than “Why your God only sent his prophet to the Middl…

You'll be surprised how quickly religions will adapt to include aliens. Or new ones will appear out of nowhere to replace the old ones.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by timothevs »

gmisra wrote: post #54

For those interested in other "legitimate" UFO sightings, I'd recommend "UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record" by Leslie Kean [1]. The author is an investigative journalist who sets out to interview observers of relatively well-documented UFO encounters, and ends up speaking mostly with military pilots from around the world. It's a good read, and is even-handed and well written, especially…

Thanks for sharing the book.

I agree that the releases from the US Gov the last few weeks have been VERY surprising, nearly a 90 degree shift from the "deny everything" policy that they assumed for the last few decades.

Going one step further, at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I just wonder, what actually has changed to prompt this change in policy of denying everything

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by ohyes »

0xFFC wrote: post #86
ohyes wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok. If it’s an extraterrestrial, how did it get here? There’s no evidence that FTL is possible and even if it were it would probably require huge amounts of power. We’d notice it being used. We may as well be saying that these are angels from heaven, I guess is my point. There are tons of reports of ‘divine’ stuff happening as well, but jumping to God existing being a likelihood is not something an objective observer…

In a totally unrelated comment, I want to say, one reason why I find the UFO thing interested is in hypothetical situation if we can have proofs of existence of aliens, all those nonsense, ridiculous religions (like Islam, Christianity, Judaism, etc) would be horseshit to common people. With a simple question of : “Why your God only sent his prophet to earth?”

There are plenty of simple questions that already blow apart the majority of religions if someone is unbiased / not indoctrinated. It would likely just be used as further proof of righteousness and a source of xenophobia by those in control of said religions.

"God sent his prophet because we're the chosen species, the only one created in His image. Only He can protect you from the alien threat," garbage like that. It's easy to spin this type of thing when you've thrown all rationality out the window.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by corobo »

brango wrote: post #33

I'm sold on the whole UFO cover-up thing. If you peel back the social ridicule (very successfully induced by US government collaboration with Hollywood) and consider the huge number of circumstantial reports from across the military and non-military it seems pretty clear there's stuff in the skies of non-human origin. Historical art suggests they've been flying for centuries. There's also the publicly acknowledged re…

Why though?

Why would an alien species just do atmosphere drive-bys? Why wouldn’t they pop down and say hello?

Why on earth would NASA, SETI, SpaceX, etc cover up the biggest scoop (biggest FUNDING scoop) of Earth’s history?

Why wouldn’t any of the other LEO piercing countries in the world grass it up? Thousands of people working in each of the space-faring countries, all keeping quiet about it.

Why would the US, Russia, China, probably even North Korea agree on this one thing? Alright guys we are all agreed on not telling the plebs about the aliens? Ok cool, back to the war then lads.

If you can answer why, I’m down to clown on your theory.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by vorotato »

Hey meta question here, why do dupes not link to the thing they're a duplicate of. Kinda sounds like it would make navigating to dupes a lot less of a pain.

Not meta comment, aren't all flying objects UFOs until you've identified them?

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by _nalply »

I once saw something I can't explain. Two spots on the night sky a bit larger than a star and of the color of an incandescent light about a half thumb on an outstreched arm apart. They were slowly moving across the sky, however with a swinging movement forward and backwards about a thumb with a period of two seconds. Like two people side by side walking together two steps ahead then a step back the whole time, just in the sky and this was a smooth movement.

Then suddenly one of the two lights went out. The other one continued the same movement and also went out about a minute later.

This steady swinging movement is an unexplainable riddle for me.

A friend of mine also sighted something in the bright day sky of Spain. He told me that he looked up and then that thing whooshed away in an incredible speed over the Mediterranean Sea.

It's really weird. Either our senses and even the technical equipment like cameras are just fooled or we have extremely strange things going on over our heads.

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by ryandvm »

vorotato wrote: post #107

Hey meta question here, why do dupes not link to the thing they're a duplicate of. Kinda sounds like it would make navigating to dupes a lot less of a pain. Not meta comment, aren't all flying objects UFOs until you've identified them?

Meta Answer:

HN eschews all modern UI affordances as a form of status signalling. It's like how millionaire startup founders like to wear cargo shorts and hoodies.

It's Y Combinator's way of saying, "we're so fucking successful we can afford to have a site that eclipses even Craigslist in un-usability."

Re: UFO spotted by US fighter jet pilots

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Post by [deleted] »

timothevs wrote: post #104
gmisra wrote: post #54

For those interested in other "legitimate" UFO sightings, I'd recommend "UFOs: Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go on the Record" by Leslie Kean [1]. The author is an investigative journalist who sets out to interview observers of relatively well-documented UFO encounters, and ends up speaking mostly with military pilots from around the world. It's a good read, and is even-handed and well written, especially…

Thanks for sharing the book. I agree that the releases from the US Gov the last few weeks have been VERY surprising, nearly a 90 degree shift from the "deny everything" policy that they assumed for the last few decades. Going one step further, at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I just wonder, what actually has changed to prompt this change in policy of denying everything

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