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People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #19

People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change (I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)

That's exactly why the rule of 72 should be thought more often. Just seeing how quickly the population can double at the current growth rate is an eye opener. 72 / 1.1 = 65 Years Meat isn't the problem, endless growth is.

Do regions with most growth also eat most meat, per capita?

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change (I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)

I don’t get the connection either. The United States with 4% of the world’s population produces a lot of CO2. India with 4 times the number of people produced half as much.

China with 4 times the number of people now produces twice as much as the US. China’s CO2 surged in the past two decades.

Finally, does this have anything to do with meat?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_...

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #8

Trying to fix climate change as an individual consumer is hopeless.

Correct, I think it would be more effective having this change on a production level where farmers and scientists possibly work together to make meat production more sustainable by for example beter utilizing and extending grass lands in barren regions. Trick is to not make the meat more expensive...

Why not ?! It seems the most effective way to change peoples habits is still prices.

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #12

People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change (I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)

In Which Eastendguy Obfuscates the Much Stronger Nature of the Link Between Profligate Western Meat Consumption Patterns and Climate Change

"Much Stronger Nature of the Link"

Citation needed. I would bet my money that growth of population and urbanization has bigger impact than meat industry.

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it's as hopeless as voting. Do you vote?

More specifically, it's as hopeless as voting in a planet-wide election. So until we have the latter, or a forum with enough authority to have the effect of the latter, voting isn't a valid comparison. Which is a shame as voting is actually quite effective sometimes.

It’s worse than that: it’s voting in a centuries-long election with no specific endpoint where everyone votes multiple times a day, and each vote costs them a little bit.

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

#36
post #4

Trying to fix climate change as an individual consumer is hopeless.

It's like saying recycling is useless because no one recycles. You have to start somewhere

If policy dictated through incentives or exise taxes on not recycling then people will recycle.

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #23
post #11

Actually, I think you'll find that people just really like the way meat tastes.

I think we should consider a rule that everybody who wants to eat an animal, has to kill it themselves. At least that will solve the mental disconnect between reality and food consumerism.

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Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #22

People don't believe the link between meat consumption and climate change. It seems like one leftist agenda being used to push another leftist agenda and pretty much anyone who isn't down with leftist agendas tunes right out as this is just too far fetched to even consider. (Not a heavy meat eater myself but not for planet saving reasons. I just don't like a lot of meat sitting in my stomach. Beans and whole grains a…

People love to neglect grass fed meat. Much of the planet is grasslands that require grazing animals. You put grazing animals on the land, move them around, and that’s it. The only real energy input is the sun.

Compare that to monocropping which requires vast oil and pesticide/herbicide input, displaces local habitats, reduces the biodiversity of the planet.

Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)

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post #23
post #11

Actually, I think you'll find that people just really like the way meat tastes.

I think we should consider a rule that everybody who wants to eat an animal, has to kill it themselves. At least that will solve the mental disconnect between reality and food consumerism.

All that would happen is people would quickly aclimate to killing their dinner. We did it for humdreds of thousands of years, it’s part of our genetic make up.
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