Actually, I think you'll find that people just really like the way meat tastes.
People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)
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#12People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change (I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)
In Which Eastendguy Obfuscates the Much Stronger Nature of the Link Between Profligate Western Meat Consumption Patterns and Climate Change
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's like saying recycling is useless because no one recycles. You have to start somewhere
Recycling is useless because the process takes more energy than mining new except for a few select materials. It’s a feel good exercise in wastefulness.
But nonetheless, depletion of that resource or resources will slow down? Energy could be harvested from renewable energy for recycling? Bottom line for me sounds better for our world then mining new till we run out of something?
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#14Trying to fix climate change as an individual consumer is hopeless.
Correct, I think it would be more effective having this change on a production level where farmers and scientists possibly work together to make meat production more sustainable by for example beter utilizing and extending grass lands in barren regions. Trick is to not make the meat more expensive...
What's needed is a carbon tax. Yes this will make meat (among other things) more expensive, but it is generally offset by the tax savings.
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#15Trying to fix climate change as an individual consumer is hopeless.
It's like saying recycling is useless because no one recycles. You have to start somewhere
I don't disagree in principle, "Be the change you want to see in the world" and all that, but climate change from an individual level to me seems silly, or perhaps overwhelming. I have stopped really worrying about it in the Dr. Strangelove sense because it's out of control. We're supposed to sort our plastics and papers and yet all of our options available for purchase have been shipped, at least in part, from across the Pacific Ocean? There's airplanes littering the skies yet I'm supposed to worry about putting my banana peels into a compost bin? I actually don't understand. I feel like a lot of business decisions are made that we, as peons, have no say in that affect the overall biosphere a lot and then we're made to feel bad about it. "Ride your bike!" "Recycle!" "Don't forget to turn your lights off when you're not in the room!" Meanwhile: Fracking. ookay...
On topic: I have little doubt there's a strong link between climate change in general and the production and consumption of livestock.
Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)
#16Actually, I think you'll find that people just really like the way meat tastes.
It's more than that. People are very attached to their food choices, they put a lot of personal stock in what they eat. Food is an essential, ancient part of culture and society.
You not only have to convince people to get over the taste, but you also have to convince people to get over the cultural importance of meat-based foods. Not so hard and some families, but probably serious challenge and many others. "Thanksgiving turkey", "Christmas ham", "high holidays brisket", what have you.
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#17Trying to fix climate change as an individual consumer is hopeless.
Yeah it's as hopeless as voting. Do you vote?
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Recycling is useless because the process takes more energy than mining new except for a few select materials. It’s a feel good exercise in wastefulness.
> Recycling is useless because the process takes more energy than mining new except for a few select materials. It’s a feel good exercise in wastefulness. I would disagree. There is a benefit to keeping these materials out of a landfill. Saying we should just throw everything into a landfill because that uses the least energy is not considering the other benefits of diverting waste from the landfill.
The damaging effects of modern landfills are so low as to be effectively negligible.
Re: People Don't Get the Link Between Meat Consumption and Climate Change (2016)
#19People Still Don't Get the Link Between the Number of People on this Planet and Climate Change (I hardly eat meat these days, but nothing will help if the population continues to grow at the same rate)
That's exactly why the rule of 72 should be thought more often. Just seeing how quickly the population can double at the current growth rate is an eye opener.
72 / 1.1 = 65 Years
Meat isn't the problem, endless growth is.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's like saying recycling is useless because no one recycles. You have to start somewhere
Recycling is useless because the process takes more energy than mining new except for a few select materials. It’s a feel good exercise in wastefulness.
Yeah, it's not like waste is going to end up in landfills or oceans anyway.