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Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by LandR »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #38
sjcsjc wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Born in the late 60s, so teenager in the 80s in the UK. I recall that exact same fear of every passing aeroplane. In our case the cultural equivalents of OTB and DS were Threads and The Day After, and the Protect and Survive announcements that Frankie Goes To Hollywood sampled in Two Tribes. I find it interesting that the terror of the global thermonuclear war seems to have disappeared from the popular psyche, even t…

What does OTB and DS mean in this context?

On The Beach Doctor Strangelove

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by krylon »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #38
sjcsjc wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Born in the late 60s, so teenager in the 80s in the UK. I recall that exact same fear of every passing aeroplane. In our case the cultural equivalents of OTB and DS were Threads and The Day After, and the Protect and Survive announcements that Frankie Goes To Hollywood sampled in Two Tribes. I find it interesting that the terror of the global thermonuclear war seems to have disappeared from the popular psyche, even t…

What does OTB and DS mean in this context?

I guess OTB = "On The Beach" and DS = "Doctor Strangelove"

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Post by ckastner »

jacquesm wrote: post #10
r-bryan wrote: post #7

I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

> while deranged world leaders measure each other's manhood by "mine's bigger than yours Not much has changed in 70 years.

>> while deranged world leaders measure each other's manhood by "mine's bigger than yours

> Not much has changed in 70 years.

Well, that's not entirely true... At least, with regards to nuclear arsenals and weaponry, the last few decades have been marked by a substantial reduction by the original nuclear powers.

(Granted, there has also been some uptake, most notably India and Pakistan.)

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Post by kbart »

mikeash wrote: post #14
Zelphyr wrote: post #11

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That's what those are? Wow, thanks for the explanation! I always thought that was some weird quirk of the mushroom cloud.

This is called the rope trick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_trick_effect

Wow, that's one of the best written Wiki articles I've ever read, thank you for the link.

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Post by digi_owl »

mattbierner wrote: post #33
bamboozled wrote: post #31

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Isn't there war going on in the Middle East?

That does not change the fact that life for the average human today is, on the whole, more peaceful than at any point in recorded history. It is all too easy to lose track of this when you hear about all the horrific happening around the world every day

Average westerner, maybe...

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by hota_mazi »

sjcsjc wrote: post #32
r-bryan wrote: post #7

I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

Born in the late 60s, so teenager in the 80s in the UK. I recall that exact same fear of every passing aeroplane. In our case the cultural equivalents of OTB and DS were Threads and The Day After, and the Protect and Survive announcements that Frankie Goes To Hollywood sampled in Two Tribes. I find it interesting that the terror of the global thermonuclear war seems to have disappeared from the popular psyche, even t…

It's not that strange since all countries are well aware that any country that would start a third world war would get annihilated within minutes by the rest of the world.

If World War 3 didn't start during the Cuba Missile Crisis, it's extremely unlikely it would start now, not just because of the increased nuclear arsenals that all participants have accumulated since then but also for very trivial economic reasons.

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Post by quicklime »

digi_owl wrote: post #46
mattbierner wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That does not change the fact that life for the average human today is, on the whole, more peaceful than at any point in recorded history. It is all too easy to lose track of this when you hear about all the horrific happening around the world every day

Average westerner, maybe...

It's more than just for the average westerner, but also for the average human, isn't it?

According to this, the absolute number of war-related deaths around the world has been decreasing for decades now. This is especially amazing since we've been experiencing a massive population increase since WW1.

https://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Wars-L...

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Post by reti »

sho wrote: post #23
brunoqc wrote: post #21

Do we have high def color footage of nuclear explosions? That would be cool.

Check out the documentary "Trinity and Beyond" - it has a lot of quality footage, much of it colour.

There's ten minutes on youtube here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvnWXf6UZXY. Captures the essence of the film nicely. There's this weird 'end of the world' kind of undertone to the film. Genuinely scary stuff.

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Post by [deleted] »

tedeh wrote: post #27
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not much has changed since recorded human history.

I'd say something has changed since we're currently experiencing one of the most prolonged periods of peace in the last 2000 years (Europe) [1] and generally the world over [2]. This could be because the "price" of conflict has gone up, but still, it is something to think about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea https://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_mos...

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