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Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by bamboozled »

tedeh wrote: post #27
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not much has changed since recorded human history.

I'd say something has changed since we're currently experiencing one of the most prolonged periods of peace in the last 2000 years (Europe) [1] and generally the world over [2]. This could be because the "price" of conflict has gone up, but still, it is something to think about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea https://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_mos...

Isn't there war going on in the Middle East?

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Post by sjcsjc »

r-bryan wrote: post #7

I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

Born in the late 60s, so teenager in the 80s in the UK. I recall that exact same fear of every passing aeroplane. In our case the cultural equivalents of OTB and DS were Threads and The Day After, and the Protect and Survive announcements that Frankie Goes To Hollywood sampled in Two Tribes.

I find it interesting that the terror of the global thermonuclear war seems to have disappeared from the popular psyche, even though exactly the same weapons are still there ready.

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by mattbierner »

bamboozled wrote: post #31
tedeh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say something has changed since we're currently experiencing one of the most prolonged periods of peace in the last 2000 years (Europe) [1] and generally the world over [2]. This could be because the "price" of conflict has gone up, but still, it is something to think about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea https://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_mos...

Isn't there war going on in the Middle East?

That does not change the fact that life for the average human today is, on the whole, more peaceful than at any point in recorded history. It is all too easy to lose track of this when you hear about all the horrific happening around the world every day

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by trhway »

telesilla wrote: post #18
trhway wrote: post #3

my favorite detail is the evaporating (almost explosively converted into plasma by the sheer intensity of the energy being radiated) tower that the weapon was placed on top of and the cables which were keeping the tower vertical - the 5 spikes at the belly of the fireball https://youtu.be/woR7j72zE0U?t=9

I feel conflicted that these explosions are so beautiful to watch, and I always wanted to see one in the sky where the ground didn't interfere with the cloud. Now I have but I'm not really satisfied because it references a possible destruction of humanity? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n3uane1UT8

>it references a possible destruction of humanity?

imagine a guy who has a gun in a drawer at home and who smokes 2 packs a day. What is going to kill him with pretty high probability? The same way the humanity is with nuclear weapons and climate change.

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by boomboomsubban »

tedeh wrote: post #27
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not much has changed since recorded human history.

I'd say something has changed since we're currently experiencing one of the most prolonged periods of peace in the last 2000 years (Europe) [1] and generally the world over [2]. This could be because the "price" of conflict has gone up, but still, it is something to think about. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Europaea https://www.salon.com/2014/01/15/were_living_through_the_mos...

This hasn't been much more peaceful than the century following the Napoleonic Wars, which makes a lot of the political grandstanding going on terrifying.

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by King-Aaron »

mikeash wrote: post #14
Zelphyr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what those are? Wow, thanks for the explanation! I always thought that was some weird quirk of the mushroom cloud.

This is called the rope trick: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_trick_effect

That was a fascinating read, thanks for linking that!

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by InclinedPlane »

trhway wrote: post #3

my favorite detail is the evaporating (almost explosively converted into plasma by the sheer intensity of the energy being radiated) tower that the weapon was placed on top of and the cables which were keeping the tower vertical - the 5 spikes at the belly of the fireball https://youtu.be/woR7j72zE0U?t=9

Checkout the closeup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbNlgQyz84

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

sjcsjc wrote: post #32
r-bryan wrote: post #7

I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

Born in the late 60s, so teenager in the 80s in the UK. I recall that exact same fear of every passing aeroplane. In our case the cultural equivalents of OTB and DS were Threads and The Day After, and the Protect and Survive announcements that Frankie Goes To Hollywood sampled in Two Tribes. I find it interesting that the terror of the global thermonuclear war seems to have disappeared from the popular psyche, even t…

What does OTB and DS mean in this context?

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by ygra »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #38
sjcsjc wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Born in the late 60s, so teenager in the 80s in the UK. I recall that exact same fear of every passing aeroplane. In our case the cultural equivalents of OTB and DS were Threads and The Day After, and the Protect and Survive announcements that Frankie Goes To Hollywood sampled in Two Tribes. I find it interesting that the terror of the global thermonuclear war seems to have disappeared from the popular psyche, even t…

What does OTB and DS mean in this context?

The two pieces of media referenced in the ancestor comment: On the Beach, and Doctor Strangelove.

Re: Nuclear Test Films Declassified and Uploaded

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Post by WillReplyfFood »

r-bryan wrote: post #7

I was a child of the 1950's. Only 50 miles south of New York City, we little grade school kids were routinely drilled in cowering under our desks in case of a nuclear attack. Every time I heard an airplane, I was afraid it was going to drop bombs. Popular Science ran features about how to build your own fallout shelter, and how Dad could prepare his family for the coming nuclear apocalypse. The understated, tragic ho…

We did in a fashion- ever since the nukes made all mortals outcome in a war equal- those animals more equal then others avoided the slaugther.
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