Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

wsj.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 271 posts

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#181

Post by dingo_bat »

jessriedel wrote: post #149
electic wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

Anyone know how to block a particular website like FB on Android without being rooted or signing up for a subscription to some security or parental-control app? A google search just turns up a million people recommending editing the host file with ES File Explorer (which doesn't work unless you're rooted) or using the TrendMicro Mobile Security app (which requires a subscription). Why in the hell is this so hard?

If you have a Samsung phone you can use some apps that run as part of the Knox framework and block ads or arbitrary websites system-wide without rooting.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#182

Post by propogandist »

jessriedel wrote: post #149
electic wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

Anyone know how to block a particular website like FB on Android without being rooted or signing up for a subscription to some security or parental-control app? A google search just turns up a million people recommending editing the host file with ES File Explorer (which doesn't work unless you're rooted) or using the TrendMicro Mobile Security app (which requires a subscription). Why in the hell is this so hard?

NetGuard, it's from the same developer who created Xprivacy

install it from the Github repo and you can use it load a custom host file (the playstore version doesn't allow this) it functions as a VPN. Free service that also lets you block trackers and individual app analytics

https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#183

Post by dingo_bat »

nkrisc wrote: post #9

>The company also wants professional creators to post more videos to the site and make the platform a content hub on par with YouTube, a unit of Alphabet Inc.’s Google. That's interesting, because I've never been able to find a second time a video that popped up in my feed. For my experience, videos on Facebook might as well be ephemeral. forever vanishing the moment my feed refreshes itself automatically.

I even saw an ad that I wanted to click on but it just vanished. Never to be seen again.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#184

Post by adjkant »

jdironman wrote: post #126
adjkant wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I would be worried about is that the same practices of monetization that killed Facebook are seeping into Instagram. At what point are they just a poison that slowly kills anything it touches? I think they already are but the deaths are slow.

I think they realize this though. Just milking the cow now. Anyone smart enough realizes social media itself is relatively new and volatile. They have to be fluid / versatile in their investments and services other wise people just simply move to the latest and greatest platform. That's what happened in the early days with Myspace / Facebook. A business built upon this kind of product is a business built upon sand. I…

You're right.

This makes me really sad that this is the goal of Facebook, who will then serve only the goal of capitalizing on the latest and greatest type of platform format (by acquisition or copying) for social media while systematically and methodically milking the patience of their users with ads.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#185

Post by dingo_bat »

rsp1984 wrote: post #133
fpisfun wrote: post #60

They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it Yea, and spy you out completely in the process, then sell your data to the highest bidder. Can't decide if I'm more creeped out by FB or big G.

Honestly, I have recently been trying not to use anything from google or facebook. I try to use stuff from Microsoft and apple. These are straightforward businesses that I pay to use. No bullshit ads or other hidden shit. A big impediment has been the utterly low quality of the apple music app on android.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#186

Post by opportune »

MarkMc wrote: post #174
fpisfun wrote: post #60

They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

Their active user count increases in every region every year. Their revenue is growing 50% per year. They are not dying.

This isn't a precise way of thinking about things, but I really think the most important part of maintaining the success of a social network is being "cool", or rather, being the social network that cool people use.

I don't know the data, but my assumption is that facebook's user count isn't really continuing to grow among young people in developed countries. Like it or not, this demographic is usually what defines what it means to be cool. Would people in Indonesia and India join Facebook if it were mostly old people and people from their own countries? I doubt it - they would know what young people in other countries truly prefer, plus they would likely be better served by a local alternative. Would old people join Facebook if their children and younger relatives used something else? I doubt that too.

Facebook wanted to grab Snap, and did grab Instagram, so that it could maintain its monopoly on the social media that "cool" people use. All we need is more companies like Snap not willing to be bought out for Facebook to see a big hit in this market segment. I think that's the long term threat to Facebook

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#189

Post by exelius »

kelnos wrote: post #114
fpisfun wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to imagine a less ethical company in silicon valley than Facebook so it's not surprising

A little OT, but I think public perception really muddies this a lot. To expand on the siblings' example of Uber, the public seems to mostly think Uber=unethical & Lyft=ethical, but really, they engage in many of the same business practices. Uber has a worse reputation because of their sexual harassment scandals and outspoken douchebag former CEO. Lyft tries to brand themselves as the hippie-dippy summer-of-love shar…

It’s not corruption if you call it disruptive!
Post reply on HN