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Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #93
post #5

Why are they allowed to monetize so much pirated/freebooted content?

Because they haven't done enough to piss off the RIAA/MPAA and get a billion dollar lawsuit yet. They're only abusing smaller creators who can't afford to do anything serious about it.

Good point. And Facebook arguably has more money to throw at their lawyers than anyone else (apart from Apple and Google)

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #60

They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

I formed the opinion that Facebook (the service) was in trouble back in 2014-2015 when I noticed the site appeared to becoming more about interaction with content posted by 'meme pages' and such rather than content produced by friends.

Facebook as a company will probably be fine as it has its tentacles in all sorts of places now.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #60

They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it

Yea, and spy you out completely in the process, then sell your data to the highest bidder. Can't decide if I'm more creeped out by FB or big G.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #27

If I was Facebook, I'd start to think about how to add more value to people's lives. Their monetisation strategy is becoming increasingly annoying and their service is not adding enough value to counter that. People will eventually leave if you irritate them enough (see also comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922022 )

> If I was Facebook, I'd start to think about how to add more value to people's lives.

Thst would be pointless as people do not pay to be on Facebook. And people aren't paid to be on Facebook. People are the product being sold.

Proof: this last move tries to improve the product (people's time) for its actual customers (advertisers).

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

> yet I waste so much time on it every day

I recommend deleting your account. Facebook wants people to think that everything happens on Facebook, but really almost nothing happens on Facebook. It's basically a useless recreational drug that is wasting the lives of many people (and severely damaging human civilization with its reality distortion -- time will tell us the full effects).

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#136
post #58

For anyone using Facebook as a messaging/group/event service, I cannot recommend the Facebook News Feed Eridactor more. It literally just blocks it all. Not perfect for all users, but it has really helped me spend less time wasting away scrolling out of habit. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/news-feed-eradicat... PS: The daily quote feature can be toggled off.

Can't you just block Facebook in your hosts file?

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intelligence is orthogonal to the basic desires Facebook uses to addict its users

That's the point; it'd be nice to have something similar to Facebook without all of the addictive trash. In my opinion, the concept of a social network in itself isn't bad - it's just the monetisation bit that they've got terribly wrong, along with the use of addictive media to bolster ad revenues.

I'm less bullish on that idea.

The issue is the cost of the service. You have to pay for those servers somehow and for updating the site to the latest versions of iOS or Windows or whatever.

There have been MANY attempts at implementing a 'paid FB' or just a straight attempt to tackle FB outright (Ello comes to mind). None have thus far worked. Not saying you can't try, but talk to the other creators out there first to learn from their mistakes.

Again, the issue is that servers cost money and you have to find the funding somehow. Ads are good at that. Subscription services aren't thus far, but Patreon may be changing things.

Still, with NN out the window now, I'd chill and wait to see how the dust settles.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #56
post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

I as well deleted it off my phone. There is just nothing personal on it anymore. They are also ruining instagram. Too many ads, suggested posts etc. They are morphing it in facebook light. Everything is just bad auto roll food videos, UNILAD shit, and identity politics clickbait sob stories.

The only reason I still have facebook is for group chat messenger during the day, and to keep track of underground parties. One of those chats is moving to discord, and other kind of moved to iMessage. Messenger now has intrusive ads on it as well, I would leave it if I could.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#140
post #56
post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

> allsides.com

Wow, I've been looking for something like this. Wish they did more than just the USA.

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