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Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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I think if use Firefox you can get a variant of the StayFocusd extension.

If you don't want the overhead of another extension, a quick win is to add this to your `/etc/hosts`: 127.0.0.1 facebook.com 127.0.0.1 www.facebook.com After a week you'll completely forget you have facebook.

BTW, there is a github repo that lists every domain owned by facebook, they have ~900 domains now.

https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklists/blob/master/corporatio...

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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I'm less bullish on that idea. The issue is the cost of the service. You have to pay for those servers somehow and for updating the site to the latest versions of iOS or Windows or whatever. There have been MANY attempts at implementing a 'paid FB' or just a straight attempt to tackle FB outright (Ello comes to mind). None have thus far worked. Not saying you can't try, but talk to the other creators out there first…

You're right, but I'm tempted to do it anyway! Who's with me? Anyone? Guess it's just me! Seriously though, I know monetisation is tricky, but there must be a better alternative to ads. I'm thinking something which can perhaps enrich the quality of a user's experience for a fee, rather than earning via ads while annoying the user.

In some ways I think Americans are cheap. I'm imagining a paid FB-like service in the range of $5-10/mo, considering ISP packages can easily run up to $80/mo, and a FB-like site should ideally only consume a portion of that.

But I think you really need to re-think the core concept of a social platform. Can't find the comment on HN, but someone a few days ago mentioned: social platform vs. social technology. A social platform is likely to be closed; Facebook only wants you to communicate via Facebook, same with Twitter, G+, etc. If you decide to email your friends instead of using FB, they lose out. A social technology, however, doesn't care about other providers as much. Think about a telephone company. They obviously want you to use their service, but they don't care if you call someone who has a different carrier. Likewise, they won't listen in to the content of your calls to tailor their service to you, because them providing you phone data and the contents of your calls are completely orthogonal.

Try thinking along the lines of a social technology, rather than a social platform. E.g. my friends want to put together a movie/pizza night so they go to Facebook to create a poll to decide on a movie and pizza toppings. Why can't that be part of an SMS standard?

It seems to me like SMS has a lot of potential for future iterations. Right now you can send texts and images to one or more people. Why not bake in other features like polls, appointments, etc. It truly has frustrated me that my friends will use Facebook to organize something that could easily be done over SMS if it just had a few extra features.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

Their active user count increases in every region every year. Their revenue is growing 50% per year.

They are not dying.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Of course.. this is the pressure that all public companies face; the pressure to forever increase shareholder value @ whatever cost :-/.. Sad. I wonder if FB is "too big to fail" or if there's a chance that more moves like this might actually hurt the platform?

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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For anyone using Facebook as a messaging/group/event service, I cannot recommend the Facebook News Feed Eridactor more. It literally just blocks it all. Not perfect for all users, but it has really helped me spend less time wasting away scrolling out of habit. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/news-feed-eradicat... PS: The daily quote feature can be toggled off.

Can't you just block Facebook in your hosts file?

Yes — but the parent comment says this is for those who use it for the messenger/group/event features.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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post #95
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If I was Facebook, I'd start to think about how to add more value to people's lives. Their monetisation strategy is becoming increasingly annoying and their service is not adding enough value to counter that. People will eventually leave if you irritate them enough (see also comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922022 )

This was the plan from the start though. Zuck took all that money in 2005 from VCs and the like specifically to corner the market on Social Media (or at least be #2 in the space). The entire idea with these start-ups is to become a monopoly by being really good at it, and then when the competition is dead, crank up the money making portion of the service to the point at which people will just not use it. These are 'U…

You don't even have to be "really good at it" to end up a monopoly when your competition needs to make ends meet and you don't.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

> allsides.com Wow, I've been looking for something like this. Wish they did more than just the USA.

I don't know, the articles it links to aren't especially good judging by a few that I've checked just now.

They're mostly either partisan drivel, or bland statements of fact that don't explain why this news is good/bad/important.

The ability to do the latter in a neutral manner is what's valuable – to me, at least, – and I don't see it here.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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I experience the same thing and it's really frustrating. I refuse to install Facebook applications on my phone, and they've needlessly crippled their mobile site (disabling messages except mbasic.facebook.com among many other things). If I so much as check a notification then go back to the newsfeed, it's different content and hit/miss as to whether I can find the top post again.

I had to wonder for a second whether I was looking at a post of mine! A year or two ago they made the change to disallow access to messages from m.facebook.com, so I started using mbasic.facebook.com for messages. Recently they blocked the mbasic.facebook.com entirely for iPhones. It's clear that there reason is to force mobile users to install messenger, because messages are still available on m.facebook.com and mba…

Use messenger.com?
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