Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#91

Post by justboxing » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 9:57 PM UTC

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

> The news on there is trash

Since when did Facebook become a news outlet? Oh wait...

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#92

Post by Veratyr » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 9:57 PM UTC

nkrisc wrote: post #9

>The company also wants professional creators to post more videos to the site and make the platform a content hub on par with YouTube, a unit of Alphabet Inc.’s Google. That's interesting, because I've never been able to find a second time a video that popped up in my feed. For my experience, videos on Facebook might as well be ephemeral. forever vanishing the moment my feed refreshes itself automatically.

It's also rich, considering video creators have been pissed at Facebook for doing nothing about people stealing their videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7tA3NNKF0Q

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#93

Post by Veratyr » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 9:59 PM UTC

stevenh wrote: post #5

Why are they allowed to monetize so much pirated/freebooted content?

Because they haven't done enough to piss off the RIAA/MPAA and get a billion dollar lawsuit yet. They're only abusing smaller creators who can't afford to do anything serious about it.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#94

Post by justhw » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:01 PM UTC

jressey wrote: post #35

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

I think you just coined the phrase. Let's take a page from the alt-right playbook and meme "No Facebook February" in to existence.

I'm in. Let's make it happen.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#95

Post by Balgair » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:04 PM UTC

osrec wrote: post #27

If I was Facebook, I'd start to think about how to add more value to people's lives. Their monetisation strategy is becoming increasingly annoying and their service is not adding enough value to counter that. People will eventually leave if you irritate them enough (see also comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922022 )

This was the plan from the start though. Zuck took all that money in 2005 from VCs and the like specifically to corner the market on Social Media (or at least be #2 in the space). The entire idea with these start-ups is to become a monopoly by being really good at it, and then when the competition is dead, crank up the money making portion of the service to the point at which people will just not use it. These are 'Unicorn' investments, they are there to make a billion dollars so that the VC is still solvent (1 unicorn covers the 99 other investments). Becoming a monopoly and then 'boiling the frogs' was the entire idea.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#96

Post by vm » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:05 PM UTC

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

How often do you use Instagram, Snap, iMessage/SMS, WhatsApp, Messenger, or other social apps? Curious whether you get that "fix" elsewhere or if it yes/no for just FB.

Thinking about it more, all media should be in the running, from HN to Netflix, because it's really about time spent.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#97

Post by aussieguy123 » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:08 PM UTC

so..i'll be scrolling through my feed and ill see my friend post what appears to be a video ad. I'm smart enough to know its just a facebook ad, but alot of people will be tricked and actually think their friend is endorsing a product.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#98

Post by pawelk » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:08 PM UTC

myf01d wrote: post #86

Facebook is just a feed of only fake promoted posts now. It's become like producthunt but promoting everything indirectly. I can't even see posts of pages I like anymore. Couple of times I found that Facebook automatically unliked pages that I had liked and haven't seen their posts in a year or something.

My wife make crochset things as a hobby, and she has decided to create a facebook page to share the passion and show what she made. Most of the fans are our mutual friends, but it has become sort of a side-income for her (friends like to order some of the stuff she makes). Last year she had lots of likes and orders for Christmas-themed stuff in Nov/Dec. This year all Facebook gave us was nagging to "boost" posts for money, and pay to promote to reach X more people etc. The content doesn't even reach our friends who are actively waiting to see new stuff unless we share it using our personal accounts (and even then it's nothing compared to last year). It's pay or fade away. That's why the feed becomes all sponsored stuff.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#99

Post by mcescalante » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:14 PM UTC

electic wrote: post #56

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

I have been leaving the FB app off my phone (Android) for 2-3 years now, and I don't miss it one bit. I was running Messenger, but that's also a resource hog.

I am now using Messenger Lite, as I am in some personal friend groups (muted) that I sometimes catch up on, and I will say that it hardly uses any resources at all. Would highly recommend it for anyone who still wants Messenger but without the bloat and battery loss.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

#100

Post by code_duck » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 10:15 PM UTC

cortesoft wrote: post #55

code_duck wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to wonder for a second whether I was looking at a post of mine! A year or two ago they made the change to disallow access to messages from m.facebook.com, so I started using mbasic.facebook.com for messages. Recently they blocked the mbasic.facebook.com entirely for iPhones. It's clear that there reason is to force mobile users to install messenger, because messages are still available on m.facebook.com and mba…

I just went to mbasic.facebook.com from my iPhone and it worked? I didn't login because I don't use facebook, does it block you after you login?

Oh, interesting. Thanks for letting me know. I haven't tried in a week or two, and it's back! I was definitely getting redirected to m.facebook.com for a week or two, but apparently see they have restored access, for whatever reason.

Edit: does anyone know of somewhere I can be informed of changes about this by Facebook?

Searching for previous discussions about this on a Hacker News, I see other people say that the mbasic Does or doesn’t work for them at various times.