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Re: Poland: Government agency fines private TV station for coverage of protests

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Post by nkkollaw » Wed, Dec 13, 2017, 5:03 PM UTC

lightbyte wrote: post #25

lossolo wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has more publicity today because this TV station was taken over by US based company last year. Department of justice made a statement because US based company was fined. If this TV station would be owned by last owner today then things for sure would be different.. Do not judge Poland, if you want to judge someone then judge polish government. This government is a result of populism wave that also elected Trump…

>Do not judge Poland, if you want to judge someone then judge polish government. This government is a result of populism wave The government is elected by the people, it's perfectly reasonable to judge those people for the result of their actions.

Damn, you might be right but I'd rather die than have to be judged for Berlusconi :-/

Re: Poland: Government agency fines private TV station for coverage of protests

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Post by expertentipp » Wed, Dec 13, 2017, 7:19 PM UTC

acd wrote: post #13

I can recommend Timothy Snyder’s book “On tyrany”. It is easy too loose your democracy too populist once they start attacking democratic institutions like news and the courts. Please also read 14 characteristics of facism. Warning point controlling the media. https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

An article on fining a TV "news" station which is in one portfolio with Food Network and Travel Channel of some media giant, and suddenly... fascism!

Re: Poland: Government agency fines private TV station for coverage of protests

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Post by megaman22 » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 1:10 AM UTC

baq wrote: post #30

megaman22 wrote: post #12

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Maybe people hate the bullshit that has been pedaled by their shit mass media and legislature

But why they don't hate the bullshit that their alt media feeds them?

Because it's a different brand of bullshit, that's closer to reality.

Re: Poland: Government agency fines private TV station for coverage of protests

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Post by gyaru » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 7:57 AM UTC

amiga-workbench wrote: post #23

gyaru wrote: post #21

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Yeah, because that sure happened! (no) You're free to link any examples.

http://www.friatider.se/gigantisk-databas-ver-invandrares-br... https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/extremhogersajt-och-nazis... This was fairly recent, as I understand it, SVT is the more "reputable" news source and they don't seem to be refuting any of the data. Shortly after the migrant crisis began, Swedish police stopped recording information about the ethnicity of perps.

Huh, what's the issue with those articles at all?

Sweden has laws how you have to handle personal information, a database like that would potentially breach that law.

It's basically like a smaller version of GDPR from the EU.

How is this governmental censoring?

You'd breach the same law if you made a database with people that like Nintendo games.

Jeez.

Re: Poland: Government agency fines private TV station for coverage of protests

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Post by dpc_pw » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 6:37 AM UTC

As much as I dislike the ruling party, it's all politics and the major TVs in Poland are just foreign influence agents and they lie to their teeth about everything. For a weaker country like Poland to break out of foreign rule, they have to muster the power and get rid of foreign agents. Free speech has nothing to do with mass media which are just propaganda tools used by whoever is their real owner.

Free speech in Poland is doing way better than almost anywhere else in the world. You can think, write and say what you want. There is no official or unofficial wrong-think commandos, or ideologies shoved down everyone's throat. You can actually have a public discussion there, without fear of retaliation, being ostracised, fired and unemployable forever, etc. In some parts of USA you can't even say "Merry Christmas" anymore without fear of being labelled a bigot, racist or whatever and having a talk with an HR.

And comments about fascism etc in Poland are offensive and ignorant. Polish people like noone else in the world are wary of ideologies like communism and fascism. A lot of people here making such comments, wouldn't recognize fascism and totalitarianism if it hit them in the head. Otherwise, they would be discussing American universities, antifa, PC police etc all the time, not "raise of fascism in Europe". Poland, as lame as it is in some respects is an awesome place if you value freedom of speech and mind. Come and visit.