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Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by symfoniq »

xedarius wrote: post #40
seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

I agree and have taken time to build a PC recently, after living in Mac world for 10 years. The hardware you can get is quite amazing (this is what I built https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/b/6FXPxr ). Everything works and it's rock solid, it's also very quiet (something a lot PC users aren't so concerned about). Windows however I'm finding a lot harder to get on with. Windows 4K support is awful. So many broken and blurry…

As a former Mac user, I can say Windows 10's 4K support is getting better. The Fall Creators Update improved some issues I was having when running multiple monitors with different scaling. At Microsoft's current pace, I expect the remaining HiDPI issues will be fixed sooner rather than later.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by leetrout »

wlesieutre wrote: post #24
leetrout wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually it just dawned on me- why didn't they try to make a "pro mini" instead with pci-ex slots and upgradable ram (and I know why- because the planned obsolescence) but that would be a better "middle ground" between a laptop and a pro machine. And better than an all-in-one if they make mini-itx form factor. I can use whatever monitor I want but i get to keep Apple blessed hardware (for whatever that's worth these…

They did a "Pro Mini" with expandability via Thunderbolt, the problem was they priced it at $3000+ and called it "Mac Pro"

Heh, yea, fair point. No idea why I was being downvoted for bringing it up... maybe the planned obsolescence comment?

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by symfoniq »

pishpash wrote: post #49
jdc0589 wrote: post #35

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not what I'd call a bargain for $5k. seems like more Apple tax than usual.

Apple is trolling to see how much they can really fetch. It's a back-to-the-80's kind of computer price, for the snoots. It's going to end as well as last time they did that.

I can't help but remember what an amazing value my 8-core Mac Pro 2,1 was (at least in US dollars). Those days are long past.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by xedarius »

hungerstrike wrote: post #68
xedarius wrote: post #64

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There's quite a bit. The services dialog is blurry. The dialog that details the network devices is blurry. I have an ongoing battle with IntelliJ and PyCharm, fonts are all broken. Steam is totally broken, not to mention the games. I got QuakeLive (best bit about being back on Windows). Quake was all broken (rendered at twice the DPI), I had to find the shortcut and disable Application Scaling (wtf?). I could go on.

> The services dialog is blurry. Not doubting you, but I just opened it and it's not blurry on my 4k monitor. To be clear, I hit Start, typed Services and pressed ENTER when I saw the Services desktop app. (Another way to open it would be to hit Win+R and type: services.msc) > I have an ongoing battle with IntelliJ and PyCharm, fonts are all broken. Sounds like a JetBrains problem. What's broken with them anyway? > I…

When I get home maybe I can take some screen shots. Maybe it will illustrate what I'm talking about.

I take your point about flexibility and you're 100% correct on the gaming aspect.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by symfoniq »

patrickg_zill wrote: post #55

The frustration level of Macs has increased to the extent that some users are jumping to Windows. If you live in Photoshop, Lightroom and Illustrator, with the new subscription service that Adobe has for their apps, the switching cost is almost nothing (your time costs you of course). Capture One is very good on Windows, 4k works fine, etc.

I made the jump. It didn't even hurt.

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by rasz »

jordache wrote: post #19
seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

I don't get it.. PC for studio and mac for field work.. that seems like a very counter intuitive setup. Whatever benefits he get from a mac laptop is no doubt eroded by using these two platforms together.

You need a Mac in the field, mainly to look professional to the clients...

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by rasz »

jbob2000 wrote: post #65
leetrout wrote: post #2

> ... it might hit the sweet spot for studios that need a powerful desktop they can easily carry to the set. That's an interesting idea. I loved my imac for portability while travelling to a "fixed location". I still have my iMac from 2011 with the box and foam it came in and with the carrying handle it makes it super easy to securely pack up and move. I was about to comment that this really is too litte, too late, f…

> ... it might hit the sweet spot for studios that need a powerful desktop they can easily carry to the set. I've met a couple of Data Grips before (the guys who manage all the digital files on set). First, these guys are hired on contract and they usually need to have some of their own equipment. And second, they all use macbook pros... and stacks upon stacks of hard drives. The macbook is their personal computer th…

Being paid by the hour they dont care about poor laptop processing power.

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Post by scarface74 »

seanalltogether wrote: post #10

My brother has been obsessed with Apple products for the past 20 years, he was the one who convinced my parents to get one in 1998. He's been a professional photographer since 2001 and has worked on different iterations of Mac Pro machines ever since. This Thanksgiving he finally gave in and asked me how to build a PC for his work studio. He just can't justify working on desktop Mac Pros anymore. He'll keep the mac l…

It's no secret that the 2013 Mac Pro was a failure and a design mistake. Apple admitted as much.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/06/transcript-phil-schiller-c...

Re: Apple iMac Pro goes on sale December 14th

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Post by rbanffy »

wlesieutre wrote: post #57
rbanffy wrote: post #39

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What happened to rendering farms? When I did 3D (3D Studio DOS, long time ago) I had a couple beefy rendering slaves. My desktop was not even the fastest machine on the group - it just happened to have a better graphics card (a Matrox one IIRC). If I had to do it now, I'd have an iMac on my desk (because the screen is so incredibly awesome) and a bunch of Dells (or custom built) boxes on a rack at the other end of a…

I'm sure render farms are great, but if a single modern computer would be fast enough, why bother? He also does just as much photography and 2D advertising work, which as far as I know wouldn't benefit from one.

I would say even the 8-core one is pretty much fast enough for mostly anything 2D you can throw at it and a buy-and-forget option for the next couple years. Also, keep in mind even Apple thinks this is a stopgap computer - they still mentioned the future modular MacPro on the last event.
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