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Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by bunderbunder »

specialist wrote: post #95
bunderbunder wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can count the number of times I've needed to implement any binary tree algorithms on one hand. And they've all been either homework when I was in undergrad, or job interviews. That said, I'm pretty sure that interview questions like these are not about whether or not someone is qualified to do the job they're actually doing, and 100% about companies trying to come up with a standardized, one size fits all tech inte…

Nope. It's just hazing. The geek version of fraternity pledge week. The only standardization is the thud of hitting the floor due to all participants expending the least possible effort. Like a team building trust fall where everyone is too busy checking Messenger to be bothered to extend their arms. The shared failure of institutionalized apathy.

I don't see the a contradiction between these two ideas. That last sentence, about this contributing to insiders' perception of being an elect few, describes the same kind of mentality that allows hazing to persist in organizations that do it.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by mamcx »

reaperducer wrote: post #89
drinchev wrote: post #46

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It's really sad. I always thought there are lots of companies, acting like WhatsApp ( $1,000,000 donation to FreeBSD [1] ) and return back value to open source, the same way they got value out of it. I'm really surprised that instead of "lots" I have to write "some". I also think that it's a much bigger win, financially and for P.R., to donate some of the profits, instead of paying the taxes in selected tax-paradise…

A lot of big companies, even in 2017, don't have a very good in-house process for buying software that isn't available on CDROM from a preferred distributor (CDW, etc...) One place I worked, it was easier to order a new work van for the department than a $30 program because the program could only be downloaded, and not bought in a box.

So, how about repackage the app on cds?

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by mikemcquaid »

danra wrote: post #78

The first-time installation on Mac OS X 10.5 has been improved This is just pleasant to see. Some people like/are stuck using older OSes. Which Apple itself conveniently ignores (inconveniently for its developers), e.g., Xcode hacks and looking for 3rd party copies of old SDKs to be able to keep compiling for older OSes. :(

Fun fact: for maximum compatibility our vendored portable Ruby 2.3.3 was compiled on 10.5 (hence these fixes).

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by philwelch »

feelix wrote: post #70
bunderbunder wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can count the number of times I've needed to implement any binary tree algorithms on one hand. And they've all been either homework when I was in undergrad, or job interviews. That said, I'm pretty sure that interview questions like these are not about whether or not someone is qualified to do the job they're actually doing, and 100% about companies trying to come up with a standardized, one size fits all tech inte…

>works for Google because they're such an attractive employer that they're dealing with essentially zero risk that they accidentally filter out all their qualified applicants with stuff like this You know the founder of homebrew was filtered out by exactly this, right?

“Capable of writing software that solves a real world problem” isn’t necessarily Google’s bar. It’s entirely possible that the creator of Homebrew doesn’t have the level of skill that Google requires.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by clairity »

bunderbunder wrote: post #35
ubernostrum wrote: post #24

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One of my less-favorite things is how many people always pop up to defend the Google approach and argue that if he couldn't pass such an interview he must by definition not be qualified.

I can count the number of times I've needed to implement any binary tree algorithms on one hand. And they've all been either homework when I was in undergrad, or job interviews. That said, I'm pretty sure that interview questions like these are not about whether or not someone is qualified to do the job they're actually doing, and 100% about companies trying to come up with a standardized, one size fits all tech inte…

yes, the goal is standardization of interviews, not hiring the best candidate, but it's also about signalling the cleverness of the interviewer and the company. if you're actually clever, it will be evident during the interview without having to plan for it with a pre-determined interview puzzle.

but your "zero risk" assessment is a common but unproven justification of such hiring practices. with good management, you can easily bound the cost of a bad hire to a few (tens of) thousands of dollars. it's hard to estimate the benefit of a good hire since that's an alternate reality not taken, but it's probably many, many times higher than the cost of a bad hire:

opportunity cost of losing a good hire >>> realized cost of a bad hire

(the probability of a bad hire is higher than of missing out on a good hire however, so you'd need real numbers to estimate the relative costs)

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by Crontab »

reaperducer wrote: post #84
spiralganglion wrote: post #62

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My immediate thought is that this is spoofed. I doubt anyone at Apple would be silly enough to allow software on an unannounced OS to freely send out analytic data. I expect they'd have some sort of filtering applied either right on their dev/test machines (something like Little Snitch, though surely built in-house) or at the network level.

> I doubt anyone at Apple would be silly enough to allow software on an unannounced OS to freely send out analytic data ...and you'd be wrong. It is very common for Apple to test its new browser versions on the public internet and for those version numbers to show up in the logs of popular Apple web sites. It's one of the ways that Think Secret could confirm that a new version was on the way.

Think Secret? Wow, that takes me back.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by mattdw »

cyberpunk0 wrote: post #99
atonse wrote: post #61

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Yes, exactly! I face this with my government clients. They spend very little time thinking of the actual amount (even if it's $30k), and more time about "how are we going to purchase this??" Tip Jars aren't an effective way to get money for this stuff, at least if you want money from companies. It's good for "aw this library helped me, let me throw in $5" from individuals.

Tip jars and pay what you can are effective. Bs corporate red tape is the problem

BS corporate red tape is a reality, though. So why not offer workarounds that help them give you money?

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by philwelch »

bunderbunder wrote: post #35
ubernostrum wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my less-favorite things is how many people always pop up to defend the Google approach and argue that if he couldn't pass such an interview he must by definition not be qualified.

I can count the number of times I've needed to implement any binary tree algorithms on one hand. And they've all been either homework when I was in undergrad, or job interviews. That said, I'm pretty sure that interview questions like these are not about whether or not someone is qualified to do the job they're actually doing, and 100% about companies trying to come up with a standardized, one size fits all tech inte…

Binary tree questions probably come up as often as they do, relative to how often binary trees are actually used, because so many interview questions can be solved trivially with hash tables.

Just because you don’t use binary trees doesn’t mean Google or Amazon don’t, though. Maybe not binary trees themselves, but b-trees and similar data structures are widely used in file systems, databases, and other large scale systems that these companies routinely work on.

Also, everyone knows that companies ask questions about data structures and algorithms. If you’re have the ability and inclination to prepare for these interviews, that says something about you as a candidate. If you don’t prepare at all and then go on the internet to whine about it when you don’t get an offer, that also reflects on you.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by Crontab »

drinchev wrote: post #46
joeblau wrote: post #16

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Welcome to open source software. The site I run has 70,000+ monthly unique visitors; It's used by all of the top tech companies, and brings in about $45 a month in ad revenue. I'm not complaining because the only financial costs are my domain hosting. I chalk up my personal time to an educational investment. I'm sure Homebrew has a significantly higher value, but you've got to weigh the tradeoffs. If Homebrew cost $9…

It's really sad. I always thought there are lots of companies, acting like WhatsApp ( $1,000,000 donation to FreeBSD [1] ) and return back value to open source, the same way they got value out of it. I'm really surprised that instead of "lots" I have to write "some". I also think that it's a much bigger win, financially and for P.R., to donate some of the profits, instead of paying the taxes in selected tax-paradise…

I totally agree with you but at the same time - we can't tell people something is free and then get upset when they treat it as such.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by cuckcuckspruce »

mattdw wrote: post #117
cyberpunk0 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tip jars and pay what you can are effective. Bs corporate red tape is the problem

BS corporate red tape is a reality, though. So why not offer workarounds that help them give you money?

As mentioned above, offer consulting services and accept corporate purchase orders. Be able to give and receive PO numbers. This is the language the bean counters speak, and sprinkles magic pixie dust on your invoices, ensuring you get paid.
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