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Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by atonse »

ufmace wrote: post #38
drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

Reminds me of one of patio11's posts somewhere. I don't remember which one, but the gist is that big companies basically can't donate to tipjars, patreons, etc. But if you make it a product with an enterprise option for support or something, they'll gladly pay tens of thousands a month.

Yes, exactly!

I face this with my government clients. They spend very little time thinking of the actual amount (even if it's $30k), and more time about "how are we going to purchase this??"

Tip Jars aren't an effective way to get money for this stuff, at least if you want money from companies. It's good for "aw this library helped me, let me throw in $5" from individuals.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by spiralganglion »

blackRust wrote: post #5
drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

If you look into the OS version analytics, there are 397 events registered from "macOS (10.14)". That's the next version of macOS :) https://brew.sh/analytics/os-version/

My immediate thought is that this is spoofed. I doubt anyone at Apple would be silly enough to allow software on an unannounced OS to freely send out analytic data. I expect they'd have some sort of filtering applied either right on their dev/test machines (something like Little Snitch, though surely built in-house) or at the network level.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#63

Post by rockostrich »

ketralnis wrote: post #41
bluedino wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant, what do you prefer about one vs the other

I don't know what to tell you, I like it better. Different flavours for different folks. I never know what to make of "people still use ______?!" comments

Is there no specific reason why you like it better? Usually you can explain why certain software is preferable to similar software. For example, I use IntelliJ over VS Code for writing Scala because I've had difficulties getting the Ensime extensions to work properly and IntelliJ usually just works. I use VS Code over PyCharm for writing Python code because it's lighter weight and offers 99% of the features that I need. We use Slack at work instead of IRC because there are a lot of non-technical people who need to communicate with the dev team and Slack offers an easy to use UI for organizations.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#64

Post by greggman »

jerrre wrote: post #40
jpk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until reading this comment, I didn't know they had a patreon page. As far as I can tell, it's not linked from the front page of brew.sh. It is linked down at the bottom of the README on github though. Anyway, that number would probably be higher if it were advertised more.

Not at all saying that this is happening here, but this made me wonder: would there be fake Patreons accounts? How much verification is done?

Patreon doesnt seem to do much checking of anything. There are patreon users getting money by copying the content of other patreon users and aggrigating it. So far patreon has done nothing. There are also patreon accounts just posting links to torrents and no movement from Patreon

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#65

Post by epicide »

bluedino wrote: post #27

Does anyone use MacPorts/Fink anymore? What are the use cases for them?

I haven't looked into this too heavily, but my understanding is that Homebrew prefixes everything it installs. It does not touch any existing files, so uninstallation (even just to reinstall) is just deleting a directory.

MacPorts does not work the same way.

Edit: grammar.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by bradgessler »

spiralganglion wrote: post #62
blackRust wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you look into the OS version analytics, there are 397 events registered from "macOS (10.14)". That's the next version of macOS :) https://brew.sh/analytics/os-version/

My immediate thought is that this is spoofed. I doubt anyone at Apple would be silly enough to allow software on an unannounced OS to freely send out analytic data. I expect they'd have some sort of filtering applied either right on their dev/test machines (something like Little Snitch, though surely built in-house) or at the network level.

I also doubt they’d ever release a security vulnerability where a user can enter a blank password to gain root access to macOS.

:-P

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by judge2020 »

jerrre wrote: post #40
jpk wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until reading this comment, I didn't know they had a patreon page. As far as I can tell, it's not linked from the front page of brew.sh. It is linked down at the bottom of the README on github though. Anyway, that number would probably be higher if it were advertised more.

Not at all saying that this is happening here, but this made me wonder: would there be fake Patreons accounts? How much verification is done?

Patreon attempts to charge new subscribers as soon as they sign up to give to a page, so if a charge bounces back the numbers dont go up. Existing members are removed as soon as their card declines the transaction.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by leadingthenet »

dom96 wrote: post #34
iRobbery wrote: post #2

Oh nice, just upgraded everything yesterday. Side note: I find it a pity brew upgrade webcalls google analytics.

Out of curiosity, would you be more comfortable if brew webcalled a different service? one not affiliated with Google?

Not sure about him, but I personally would, yes.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by feelix »

bunderbunder wrote: post #35
ubernostrum wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of my less-favorite things is how many people always pop up to defend the Google approach and argue that if he couldn't pass such an interview he must by definition not be qualified.

I can count the number of times I've needed to implement any binary tree algorithms on one hand. And they've all been either homework when I was in undergrad, or job interviews. That said, I'm pretty sure that interview questions like these are not about whether or not someone is qualified to do the job they're actually doing, and 100% about companies trying to come up with a standardized, one size fits all tech inte…

>works for Google because they're such an attractive employer that they're dealing with essentially zero risk that they accidentally filter out all their qualified applicants with stuff like this

You know the founder of homebrew was filtered out by exactly this, right?

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