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Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by sosborn »

drinchev wrote: post #46
joeblau wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to open source software. The site I run has 70,000+ monthly unique visitors; It's used by all of the top tech companies, and brings in about $45 a month in ad revenue. I'm not complaining because the only financial costs are my domain hosting. I chalk up my personal time to an educational investment. I'm sure Homebrew has a significantly higher value, but you've got to weigh the tradeoffs. If Homebrew cost $9…

It's really sad. I always thought there are lots of companies, acting like WhatsApp ( $1,000,000 donation to FreeBSD [1] ) and return back value to open source, the same way they got value out of it. I'm really surprised that instead of "lots" I have to write "some". I also think that it's a much bigger win, financially and for P.R., to donate some of the profits, instead of paying the taxes in selected tax-paradise…

How do you know that these other companies aren’t contributing in other ways (code, testing, bug reports, etc.)?

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#52

Post by rz2k »

bluedino wrote: post #30
ketralnis wrote: post #29

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I use MacPorts pretty heavily and prefer it over homebrew. The use-case is the same as for homebrew

I meant, what do you prefer about one vs the other

Last I used MacPorts I thought it was more separate from MacOS, installing its own components rather than using what comes with the operating system.

I preferred the MacPorts model, but when I used them both, there seemed to be a lot less support compared to Homebrew. When builds stop working, they seemed to be fixed in Homebrew before they were fixed in MacPorts, and Homebrew also seemed to have more current versions of most packages available.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#53

Post by pjmlp »

drinchev wrote: post #46
joeblau wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to open source software. The site I run has 70,000+ monthly unique visitors; It's used by all of the top tech companies, and brings in about $45 a month in ad revenue. I'm not complaining because the only financial costs are my domain hosting. I chalk up my personal time to an educational investment. I'm sure Homebrew has a significantly higher value, but you've got to weigh the tradeoffs. If Homebrew cost $9…

It's really sad. I always thought there are lots of companies, acting like WhatsApp ( $1,000,000 donation to FreeBSD [1] ) and return back value to open source, the same way they got value out of it. I'm really surprised that instead of "lots" I have to write "some". I also think that it's a much bigger win, financially and for P.R., to donate some of the profits, instead of paying the taxes in selected tax-paradise…

Not at all, from my consulting experience many companies, specially the ones whose main business is not software related, hardly give anything back.

FOSS is seen by upper management as a way to avoid paying for software, instead of pirating it, and contributing code back is frowned upon.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#54

Post by pjmlp »

sosborn wrote: post #51
drinchev wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really sad. I always thought there are lots of companies, acting like WhatsApp ( $1,000,000 donation to FreeBSD [1] ) and return back value to open source, the same way they got value out of it. I'm really surprised that instead of "lots" I have to write "some". I also think that it's a much bigger win, financially and for P.R., to donate some of the profits, instead of paying the taxes in selected tax-paradise…

How do you know that these other companies aren’t contributing in other ways (code, testing, bug reports, etc.)?

If only the supermarket lady could take some pull requests as payment.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#56

Post by cuckcuckspruce »

ufmace wrote: post #38
drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

Reminds me of one of patio11's posts somewhere. I don't remember which one, but the gist is that big companies basically can't donate to tipjars, patreons, etc. But if you make it a product with an enterprise option for support or something, they'll gladly pay tens of thousands a month.

This is the almighty power manifest of the purchase order in corporate finance.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#57

Post by ricardobeat »

drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

The maintainer works for GitHub, I’m sure he is doing alright.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#58

Post by cuckcuckspruce »

FooBarWidget wrote: post #11
jameskilton wrote: post #8

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"Packages" in homebrew are nothing more than Ruby install files called Formulas[1]. So using Github works really well for their use case and I don't think there is any thought of changing it. Updating homebrew, new formulas, etc, is nothing more than a `git pull`. [1] https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/tree/master/Formul...

Not quite. They also supply precompiled binaries nowadays, one version of each supported macOS version. They have a CI infrastructure that continuously builds precompiled binaries for all formulas, for all supported macOS versions.

There is an environment variable you can set to force building from source if you do not want to rely on bottled binaries.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by foobarbazetc »

pm wrote: post #44
Karunamon wrote: post #33

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It’s not complete crap - the cost of a bad hire is a lot more than the cost of missing out on a good one.

Except that implies that someone who remembers how to invert a binary tree but doesn't have an open track record is a better hire than someone who couldn't remember but created, maintains and improves a popular open source project for YEARS. Working software should be prioritised over rote memorisation of data structure theory.

It also implies that just because you can invert a binary tree on a whiteboard you’re actually good. That’s debatable but I guess it’s one of N filters.

When I interviewed at Google they asked a lot of (at the time) very specific questions about various languages but only 1 “solve this riddle” type question. It was a pretty good experience.

The best interview I ever did was with an investment bank where I was struggling to whiteboard some problem (after a string of really tough, challenging problems I did well at) and they let me use a terminal to actually code it up (which I managed to do very quickly). I got that offer. ;)

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by [deleted] »

pm wrote: post #44
Karunamon wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not complete crap - the cost of a bad hire is a lot more than the cost of missing out on a good one.

Except that implies that someone who remembers how to invert a binary tree but doesn't have an open track record is a better hire than someone who couldn't remember but created, maintains and improves a popular open source project for YEARS. Working software should be prioritised over rote memorisation of data structure theory.

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