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Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by tc7 »

ubernostrum wrote: post #24
philip1209 wrote: post #19

The maintainer's tweet about interviewing at Google is one of my favorites: https://mobile.twitter.com/mxcl/status/608682016205344768?la...

One of my less-favorite things is how many people always pop up to defend the Google approach and argue that if he couldn't pass such an interview he must by definition not be qualified.

Possible points for the defense:

- He may be qualified to work at Google, but that's not apparent just because he created Homebrew, right?

- Google can afford to be picky enough to miss out on popular open-source project authors who _can't_ code on the whiteboard in favor of those who _can_ -- can we argue that they should reverse this, or just that in certain cases potentially-qualified people fall through the cracks?

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#33

Post by Karunamon »

ubernostrum wrote: post #24
philip1209 wrote: post #19

The maintainer's tweet about interviewing at Google is one of my favorites: https://mobile.twitter.com/mxcl/status/608682016205344768?la...

One of my less-favorite things is how many people always pop up to defend the Google approach and argue that if he couldn't pass such an interview he must by definition not be qualified.

It’s not complete crap - the cost of a bad hire is a lot more than the cost of missing out on a good one.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#34

Post by dom96 »

iRobbery wrote: post #2

Oh nice, just upgraded everything yesterday. Side note: I find it a pity brew upgrade webcalls google analytics.

Out of curiosity, would you be more comfortable if brew webcalled a different service? one not affiliated with Google?

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#35

Post by bunderbunder »

ubernostrum wrote: post #24
philip1209 wrote: post #19

The maintainer's tweet about interviewing at Google is one of my favorites: https://mobile.twitter.com/mxcl/status/608682016205344768?la...

One of my less-favorite things is how many people always pop up to defend the Google approach and argue that if he couldn't pass such an interview he must by definition not be qualified.

I can count the number of times I've needed to implement any binary tree algorithms on one hand. And they've all been either homework when I was in undergrad, or job interviews.

That said, I'm pretty sure that interview questions like these are not about whether or not someone is qualified to do the job they're actually doing, and 100% about companies trying to come up with a standardized, one size fits all tech interview that can be used for every position. Since the intersection of necessary skills for all kinds of developer jobs is something close to {"understands values vs. references", "knows at least 1 programming language"}, though, the result of any such endeavor is going to involve a lot of noise.

It works for Google because they're such an attractive employer that they're dealing with essentially zero risk that they accidentally filter out all their qualified applicants with stuff like this. It probably even helps company morale by fostering a perception among Google employees that they are an elect few.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#36

Post by mynameisvlad »

ysavir wrote: post #18
sigzero wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it is clearly documented that should be it. Maybe a blurb on the main page about it would be nice but not necessary.

Any opt-out features should be disclosed to the user on install. That seems fairly straight forward to me.

Which, as someone pointed out in a separate comment thread here, Homebrew is already doing. I'm not sure what else you want from them, they seem to be following best practices here.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by seeekr »

jpk wrote: post #25
drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

Until reading this comment, I didn't know they had a patreon page. As far as I can tell, it's not linked from the front page of brew.sh. It is linked down at the bottom of the README on github though. Anyway, that number would probably be higher if it were advertised more.

Wasn't aware either. +1 supporter.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by ufmace »

drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

Reminds me of one of patio11's posts somewhere. I don't remember which one, but the gist is that big companies basically can't donate to tipjars, patreons, etc. But if you make it a product with an enterprise option for support or something, they'll gladly pay tens of thousands a month.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

#39

Post by brorfred »

bluedino wrote: post #30
ketralnis wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use MacPorts pretty heavily and prefer it over homebrew. The use-case is the same as for homebrew

I meant, what do you prefer about one vs the other

I use both homebrew and macports. The main benefit with macports for me is the ability to work with different versions at the same time. You can have applications requiring gcc4.5, gcc4.9, and gcc6 installed. The package manager handles most weird special cases and combinations.

Re: Homebrew 1.4.0

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Post by jerrre »

jpk wrote: post #25
drinchev wrote: post #4

The Patreon page says they receive $177 per month. That's too low for a project with such a high popularity and usage. I read somewhere ( and I bet ) it's used by Google / Facebook / Apple employees.

Until reading this comment, I didn't know they had a patreon page. As far as I can tell, it's not linked from the front page of brew.sh. It is linked down at the bottom of the README on github though. Anyway, that number would probably be higher if it were advertised more.

Not at all saying that this is happening here,

but this made me wonder: would there be fake Patreons accounts? How much verification is done?

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