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Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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On reddit, "spagheddie" wrote: I was once a FedEx delivery driver, so I don't know how it is for Amazon, but I would imagine it's similar? At FedEx we got paid per package delivered, which means the faster you deliver your packages, the more you are technically getting paid per hour. In addition to this, you'd get a daily bonus for delivering the packages fast. We could take our lunches whenever, nobody cared as long…

I've noticed this sort of thing a lot in the job market: performance or pay are directly tied to metrics resulting in employees being incentivized into odd behaviors (breaking the law, sabotaging coworkers, skipping breaks/lunch, stagtegically cancelling or avoiding work, etc). This type of management through metrics goes hand in hand with the gig economy and also temp agency/contract work.

Completely agree, but I would say that this is not a new gig econmy/temp contract thing but originates actually from the world of manufacturing. It's almost like a retro trend.

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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dailymail.co.uk really shouldn't be on the front page of hn, its a tabloid.

Stop Funding Hate is a pressure group outing major brands and getting the to apologise for advertising in the Daily Mail, e.g. 'Paperchase', last week or so: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42058103 So this is a valid point, HN needs to find better sources that the Daily Mail. In light of this, here you go: https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Reviews/Amazon-Flex-Reviews-E132...

Stop funding hate is a pressure group consisting of a few hundred far-left agitators. Censorship should be opposed in all forms.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/stop-funding-hate-nast...

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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I always wondered why not have all delivery done at night? There is a lot less traffic generally between 10PM and 6AM for example, it seems like they could do a lot more deliveries and it would put less load on the highways and be safer and less stressful for drivers. And not sitting in traffic jams means less fuel consumption. Is there some reason why that is not done?

It would prove tricky to do home deliveries at night when everyone's asleep...

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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"skip lunch and urinate in plastic bottles, and some return to homes after their 9pm deadline" "the allocation and number of stops, and the volume to be distributed for any given day, lies entirely with Amazon." Argh. If true, hopefully someone can verify the claims and raise some visibility.

> Argh. If true, hopefully someone can verify the claims and raise some visibility.

For the piss-in-bottles, ask any random truck or delivery driver. It's more common than you'd like...

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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It's such a complex situation. Amazon has contracts with small companies who provide trucks and humans. Amazon provides the work, the groups of packages, the routes, the app the drivers need to use to deliver. The companies compete with each other for more 'routes' each day. They offer to take on more work, to do more. And then they hire anyone they can to fulfill those routes. The drivers themselves are on contracts…

'Who is to blame? Amazon? The companies? The drivers? Capitalism gone mad? Take your pick.' You can add 'customers' to this list since this is where it all begins. It isn't so long ago that all people complained about was the time it took for stuff to be delivered and all those 'we called but there was no one in' cards. So capitalism responded and now folks have something else to complain about.

I don't see why this was downvoted. If Amazon would treat their drivers better, prices and/or delivery times would go up. And that would make a lot of customers go to competitors who might treat their drivers worse but offer a better deal.

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dailymail.co.uk really shouldn't be on the front page of hn, its a tabloid.

The Guardian will be a tabloid from early next year: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/13/guardian-and-o...

Tabloid can refer to either a type of journalism, or newspaper format. Daily Mail is both, Guardian will only be the latter.

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Guardian will be a tabloid from early next year: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jun/13/guardian-and-o...

Tabloid can refer to either a type of journalism, or newspaper format. Daily Mail is both, Guardian will only be the latter.

> Guardian will only be the latter.

I recon certain sections qualify.

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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There was a time when you could give a christmas bonus to the mail man. I wish that the delivery men were more consistent, I would love to be able to give them a cash gift for all the work they do for me and my family on a regular basis. Unfortunately it seems like during the holidays the usual delivery guy isn't around and it's a chaotic mix of people. While we are here, I hate that they are now making people delive…

'There was a time when you could give a christmas bonus to the mail man.'

In the UK this was the case until around 10 years ago. The local postman was part of the community.

Now we get random people with no local knowledge or connections. Hence letters and parcels end up at the wrong address or don't get delivered at all.

Re: Amazon delivery drivers complain about bad work conditions

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post #24

On reddit, "spagheddie" wrote: I was once a FedEx delivery driver, so I don't know how it is for Amazon, but I would imagine it's similar? At FedEx we got paid per package delivered, which means the faster you deliver your packages, the more you are technically getting paid per hour. In addition to this, you'd get a daily bonus for delivering the packages fast. We could take our lunches whenever, nobody cared as long…

I've noticed this sort of thing a lot in the job market: performance or pay are directly tied to metrics resulting in employees being incentivized into odd behaviors (breaking the law, sabotaging coworkers, skipping breaks/lunch, stagtegically cancelling or avoiding work, etc). This type of management through metrics goes hand in hand with the gig economy and also temp agency/contract work.

That is why taxi drivers are such bad drivers. They are incentivised to drive fast and run red lights.
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