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Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by raarts »

sasas wrote: post #166
agumonkey wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just for the sake of warning, keto shows lots of results, but taps into a body mechanism that yields some form of withdrawal syndrom (keto flu IIRC)

.. which initially lasts days to a few weeks but the length can be shortened by fasting or supplementing with MCT oil or beta hydroxy buterate

And taking some extra salt and water per day. 2 cups of broth does it for me. No more keto flu.

Note that keto flu only occurs when your body is switching from carbs to fat, but disappears when your body is keto-adapted.

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Post by raarts »

devmunchies wrote: post #255
raarts wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carbs clogging arteries? That's not what I said. Low carb diet lowered my weight by 25 lbs, made my GERD disappear, no more taking omeprazol 'for the rest of my life', my gallbladder stopped acting up, and I have more energy as if I was 10 years younger. This was enough to convince me that I'm not going back to eating carbs as I did before.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I was saying that if saturated fats and cholesterol are good for you, then what's clogging people's arteries?

Supposedly what happens is when your body isn't repairing some defects that occasionally happen, and scar tissue grows and other stuff sticks to it.

But typing on my phone, and too busy to provide more references. You can start in the publications I linked to earlier though.

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Post by raarts »

aviv wrote: post #167
daeken wrote: post #12

I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

Type 2 diabetes like MANY other diseases are entirely reversible. It is sad that people are not being told this. Keto certainly is one way to achieve these results, with the preferred way being a 10 to 40-day water fast (no you will not die. In fact you will in many cases be extending your lifespan by several years). "But show me the clinical study" Yeah yeah, keep on saying that folks. You must realize universities…

You are using strong language and being downvoted, but there is plenty of research available on ketosis. Personally I think you are partly right too. Like the tobacco industry, which knew all to well about the damaging effects, but tried to cover it up, the food industry might well be doing something similar on sugar/carbs. (Anyone knows more examples?)

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Post by fuzzfactor »

daeken wrote: post #12

I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

Could be equally as helpful to move away from a nonideal diet as it is to move toward an ideal one.

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Post by Our_Own_Study »

Our_Own_Study wrote: post #265

In one day this page has more commenters than there were study participants (149 participants) who were on the controlled diet. We could do our own study if we could have everyone post their numbers.

I created an email. Please send your 4 pieces of daily data t2diabetes.world.study@gmail.com

Your height, Your weight, Your daily calories, Diabetes status ie Blood glucose level with units.

I will create a webpage with anonymous data. That is no email addresses. Each participant will have an anonymous Participant #

I plan to post a table Participant # - Date - Height, Weight, Calories Eaten Today, BG level

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Post by jason_slack »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #258
jason_slack wrote: post #257

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good thought. I don't use it much at all when I cook. However, I should start asking if it is used when I go out.

Read labels. It is frequently used in roasted nuts, which are otherwise a healthy thing to add to your diet. Chik-fil-a advertises that they use 100% peanut oil and I suspect Jack in the Box uses peanut oil. I don't eat at either one, not even to get salad.

I don't eat at any type of fast food at all and I haven't for maybe 18 months now. If I am going someplace for dinner, I often bring some of my own food, at least a salad or my own dressing. Usually people are understanding about it once I tell them why, My friends already know so it is no big deal to them.

Thanks for mentioning that peanut oil might be in nuts. I eat nuts everyday. I will check the labels.

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Post by fuzzfactor »

throwaway0255 wrote: post #57
daeken wrote: post #12

I went on a medically-supervised, very low calorie and low carb (keto) diet after being diagnosed with diabetes. A few months and about 50lbs in, I had no signs of insulin resistance whatsoever, my A1C was down to completely normal values, and I was able to discontinue my medication entirely. That diagnosis, as hard as it was to hear, was one of the absolute best things to ever happen to me.

Same. Pre-diabetic and all kinds of other health issues started creeping up (obesity, GERD, really bad heartburn, sleep apnea, etc). Most doctors would've just had me take medications, wear a mask that would breathe for me while I slept, and put my bed at an angle so I could sleep through the heartburn/reflux. Started calorie restricting and eliminated grains and sugar from my diet almost entirely, and all pre-diabet…

Far too many consumers are still craving the same old four major food groups:

Junk, Fast, Frozen, and Artificial :)

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #268
throwaway0255 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. Pre-diabetic and all kinds of other health issues started creeping up (obesity, GERD, really bad heartburn, sleep apnea, etc). Most doctors would've just had me take medications, wear a mask that would breathe for me while I slept, and put my bed at an angle so I could sleep through the heartburn/reflux. Started calorie restricting and eliminated grains and sugar from my diet almost entirely, and all pre-diabet…

Far too many consumers are still craving the same old four major food groups: Junk, Fast, Frozen, and Artificial :)

Sugar, salt, fat and caffeine. Which sensibly makes Chocolate nature's perfect food!

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

mijowi wrote: post #259
andrewflnr wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other 80% is probably just what they were doing before they started the 20% of keto. I don't think that's what made the change.

If that were so, then I would've expected them to say "helped me lose X pounds in ~2 months".

I do strict Keto the first 6 days of the month, which is where I was getting the 20% from.

The rest of the time, I do my normal diet of mostly fast food, too much candy, and no exercise. I might drink a little more water than I used to in this period, but no major changes.

Sorry if there was a better way to phrase this.

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