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Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by andrewflnr »

mijowi wrote: post #184
ghostbrainalpha wrote: post #88

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Did you mean to recommend /r/ketoscience/ ? It's a great sub. The keto diet helped me lose about 30 pounds this year, and I was only fully committed to it about 20% of the time.

I have to be picky here. If only 20% of your overall diet this year was keto, then really whatever you were doing the other 80% of the time is 80% (in other words, way more) responsible.

The other 80% is probably just what they were doing before they started the 20% of keto. I don't think that's what made the change.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by jawngee »

jason_slack wrote: post #185
jawngee wrote: post #180

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Type 1 is an auto-immune disease. Type 2 is not and cannot become type 1, though you might become insulin dependent at some point.

and if I do become insulin dependent then I am basically needing to shoot insulin like a Type 1 user needs to? How does one realize they are becoming insulin dependent? I mean I usually don't see a Dr except 2-3 times per year. How would I know to see a Dr sooner?

Yes, being insulin dependent means you would require taking insulin like a type 1.

Only a doctor can tell you if you need to go that route though. I'm assuming they make that decision based on your HbA1c being high or going higher despite being on a metformin, diet and exercise regimen.

You want to avoid this.

As a very tired parent of a type 1 diabetic I beg you to do whatever you can about your situation. You are lucky to have type 2 because it's something you can do something about. You have choices. You should exercise those choices.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by Mithaldu »

Mithaldu wrote: post #129
throwaway0255 wrote: post #57

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Same. Pre-diabetic and all kinds of other health issues started creeping up (obesity, GERD, really bad heartburn, sleep apnea, etc). Most doctors would've just had me take medications, wear a mask that would breathe for me while I slept, and put my bed at an angle so I could sleep through the heartburn/reflux. Started calorie restricting and eliminated grains and sugar from my diet almost entirely, and all pre-diabet…

> wear a mask that would breathe for me while I slept Dude, that's a really bad misrepresentation and very unhelpful to all the people who do need one. Many of them already struggle with self-worth issues, and seeing (whether intentional or not) lies like that spread, or worse, parroted back at them by others later does not help that. It's made a lot worse by the alternative being to gamble on suffocating in your sle…

Down-voted for stating reality. Never fucking change, HN. It's better for you to remain a wooden puppet than to try and imitate a human being.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by squiggleblaz »

nradov wrote: post #128
jamisteven wrote: post #99

This has been common knowledge for some time, but as with everything else in western medicine its "research evidence or bust".

Many things that were once "common knowledge" are now known to be false. That's why modern evidence-based medicine is increasingly effective and offers the only viable path forward. But it also makes me wonder what things we currently consider to be common knowledge today will be as thoroughly debunked as bloodletting 100 years from now.

Bloodletting has been an important and scientifically verified part of my father and aunt's medical treatment due to an excess absorption of iron (haemochromotosis).

Also some people find leaches useful for cleaning wounds.

Common knowledge is like a common cold. You just don't want it.

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Post by Kluny »

adrr wrote: post #186
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #182

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> If I checked my sugar just twice a day it would run me almost $400 a month in supplies. That's $6.66 per test! Here in Australia I recently purchased a blood glucose tester for approx $50 and 100 test strips for $50, that's full retail price. If I had a diagnosis from a doctor I would probably be entitled to a diabetes card thingo which gives a significant discount.

US prices are magnitude higher than other countries. I have frequent jumper's knee and use Voltaren Gel which my insurance won't cover. Out of pocket, it is $1200 per tube for generic. In Canada its $10.

Do people not just buy stuff online from Canada, if that's the case?

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by Mithaldu »

stordoff wrote: post #147
Mithaldu wrote: post #129

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> wear a mask that would breathe for me while I slept Dude, that's a really bad misrepresentation and very unhelpful to all the people who do need one. Many of them already struggle with self-worth issues, and seeing (whether intentional or not) lies like that spread, or worse, parroted back at them by others later does not help that. It's made a lot worse by the alternative being to gamble on suffocating in your sle…

FWIW, he didn't specify the type of mask. Something like a non-invasive ventilator is far closer to "a mask that would breathe for me while I slept" than CPAP. I used one for a time due to central sleep apnea - I'd go for 10s of seconds at a time without even _attempting_ to breathe (as opposed to obstructive apnea, where you attempt to breath but struggle due to the airway collapsing). Unfortunately it didn't help m…

Link to the exact device you were using? All of the "non-invasive ventilators" i found look exactly like CPAP.

And a lot of CPAP devices have a "encourage the user to breathe by doing some flutter" mode.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by jason_slack »

jawngee wrote: post #192
jason_slack wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and if I do become insulin dependent then I am basically needing to shoot insulin like a Type 1 user needs to? How does one realize they are becoming insulin dependent? I mean I usually don't see a Dr except 2-3 times per year. How would I know to see a Dr sooner?

Yes, being insulin dependent means you would require taking insulin like a type 1. Only a doctor can tell you if you need to go that route though. I'm assuming they make that decision based on your HbA1c being high or going higher despite being on a metformin, diet and exercise regimen. You want to avoid this. As a very tired parent of a type 1 diabetic I beg you to do whatever you can about your situation. You are l…

I am doing everything I can think of. Diet, exercise, as mentioned above. I hope that it is working well. I am off the meds now and 65 pounds lighter.

About your type 1 child....just realize that your efforts are important and your child will be better off because of them. Although they might not realize it now :-)

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by Mithaldu »

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #148
Mithaldu wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> wear a mask that would breathe for me while I slept Dude, that's a really bad misrepresentation and very unhelpful to all the people who do need one. Many of them already struggle with self-worth issues, and seeing (whether intentional or not) lies like that spread, or worse, parroted back at them by others later does not help that. It's made a lot worse by the alternative being to gamble on suffocating in your sle…

I don't think anyone is disparaging you for needing a CPAP. The goal is to get people to a point where they don't need one. There are many other health devices that are (likely) obviated by proper health status in life, and maybe more importantly, in utero. Two that come to mind that affect me are glasses and braces.

It's not about me, i don't even give a shit. I am however aware that people who aren't me actually have feelings about this.

Also note, as i stated: "intentionally or not" It doesn't matter what the intent was when lies are spread. The end result matters.

And walterbell is exactly right. Would love to see an answer to that.

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Post by jason_slack »

Kluny wrote: post #195
adrr wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US prices are magnitude higher than other countries. I have frequent jumper's knee and use Voltaren Gel which my insurance won't cover. Out of pocket, it is $1200 per tube for generic. In Canada its $10.

Do people not just buy stuff online from Canada, if that's the case?

its not that easy. Your package could get intercepted or you might not even get the same stuff you wanted. I am not sure how often this happens but I know people that always seem to have bad luck doing this.

Re: Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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Post by DoreenMichele »

jason_slack wrote: post #197
jawngee wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, being insulin dependent means you would require taking insulin like a type 1. Only a doctor can tell you if you need to go that route though. I'm assuming they make that decision based on your HbA1c being high or going higher despite being on a metformin, diet and exercise regimen. You want to avoid this. As a very tired parent of a type 1 diabetic I beg you to do whatever you can about your situation. You are l…

I am doing everything I can think of. Diet, exercise, as mentioned above. I hope that it is working well. I am off the meds now and 65 pounds lighter. About your type 1 child....just realize that your efforts are important and your child will be better off because of them. Although they might not realize it now :-)

I am doing everything I can think of

Are you aware of the research linking diabetes and inflammation?

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