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Radical diet can reverse type 2 diabetes, new study shows

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US prices are magnitude higher than other countries. I have frequent jumper's knee and use Voltaren Gel which my insurance won't cover. Out of pocket, it is $1200 per tube for generic. In Canada its $10.

https://www.goodrx.com/voltaren-gel $60-100, maybe you meant $120

I use 2.5%+ version. Goodrx doesn't always have coupons.

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Do you know how your blood pressure or cholesterol changed as a result of this diet? You were basically on a high cholesterol diet, so I'm interested.

GP describes the keto diet, which worked for me too. About the cholesterol, better read up on it. The hype about cholesterol has gone out of control. There are multiple types of it, and earlier research wasn't as conclusive as everybody thought. (Just like saturated fats by the way.) [1]: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Living/d... [2]: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Performa.…

Cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you? So, what, carbs are clogging people's arteries? that's non-nonsensical.

And when you say "worked for [you]" do you mean lost weight or helped with your overall vitals?

From what I've gained, low carb diets are great short term strategies for burning fat but not healthy in the long-term for overall balanced health.

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These are people who lost 15 kg or more (33+ pounds). Most likely they were pretty overweight to start with. And the heavier you are, the easier it is to lose weight because it takes energy to just maintain all that extra body weight. Point being, there are certainly some people would not lose weight on 2000 calories/day, but I would guess that isn't true for most of the people in this study.

> And the heavier you are, the easier it is to lose weight because it takes energy to just maintain all that extra body weight Well, the higher a calorie intake you are likely to be able to maintain and still lose weight, which is very much not the same as “the easier it is to lose weight.”

OK, I've got to admit that what I wrote was a bit ambiguous. I meant physiologically, it's easier to lose weight. But when you are starting with a group of people who are overweight to begin with, there are other factors like behavior or psychology.

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GP describes the keto diet, which worked for me too. About the cholesterol, better read up on it. The hype about cholesterol has gone out of control. There are multiple types of it, and earlier research wasn't as conclusive as everybody thought. (Just like saturated fats by the way.) [1]: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Living/d... [2]: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Performa.…

Cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you? So, what, carbs are clogging people's arteries? that's non-nonsensical. And when you say "worked for [you]" do you mean lost weight or helped with your overall vitals? From what I've gained, low carb diets are great short term strategies for burning fat but not healthy in the long-term for overall balanced health.

Carbs clogging arteries? That's not what I said.

Low carb diet lowered my weight by 25 lbs, made my GERD disappear, no more taking omeprazol 'for the rest of my life', my gallbladder stopped acting up, and I have more energy as if I was 10 years younger. This was enough to convince me that I'm not going back to eating carbs as I did before.

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Cholesterol and saturated fats are good for you? So, what, carbs are clogging people's arteries? that's non-nonsensical. And when you say "worked for [you]" do you mean lost weight or helped with your overall vitals? From what I've gained, low carb diets are great short term strategies for burning fat but not healthy in the long-term for overall balanced health.

Carbs clogging arteries? That's not what I said. Low carb diet lowered my weight by 25 lbs, made my GERD disappear, no more taking omeprazol 'for the rest of my life', my gallbladder stopped acting up, and I have more energy as if I was 10 years younger. This was enough to convince me that I'm not going back to eating carbs as I did before.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I was saying that if saturated fats and cholesterol are good for you, then what's clogging people's arteries?

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Any pointers on methods for reducing the need for glasses and braces?

Indigenous people eating their traditional diet don’t really have crooked teeth. Their jaws are big enough to fit all their teeth, including wisdom teeth. They also don’t really have cavities but that’s another point. For myopia, there is weak evidence that it is caused by lack of sun exposure at an early age. So, you can blame your parents for giving you a bad diet low in fat soluble vitamins in your childhood, and…

Beyond nutrient deficiency it seems there may also be effects on teeth straightness from bottle feeding (chronically sucking on many types of baby bottles changes infant mouth shape) and from not chewing enough hard foods as a child. The cavities thing is mostly about sugar and to a lesser extent other processed food.

As for myopia the effect is probably due to some combination of lack of very bright light exposure and a infrequent need to focus far away or too much time spent focusing close without breaks. As you say the solution is to spend more time outdoors as a child, and alternate relatively shorter sessions of desk/screen work with more active interludes, making sure to glance around the room with some frequency.

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I know some about it. Enough to where I don't eat red meat or pork (maybe 1-2 times a month) and I eat a lot of leafy vegetables. I don't use butter or mayonnaise. I don't consume caffeine and I make my own cashew milk.

Just off the top of my head, trying to be constructive here, I will suggest you add peanut oil to your list of foods to avoid.

good thought. I don't use it much at all when I cook. However, I should start asking if it is used when I go out.

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Just off the top of my head, trying to be constructive here, I will suggest you add peanut oil to your list of foods to avoid.

good thought. I don't use it much at all when I cook. However, I should start asking if it is used when I go out.

Read labels. It is frequently used in roasted nuts, which are otherwise a healthy thing to add to your diet.

Chik-fil-a advertises that they use 100% peanut oil and I suspect Jack in the Box uses peanut oil. I don't eat at either one, not even to get salad.

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I have to be picky here. If only 20% of your overall diet this year was keto, then really whatever you were doing the other 80% of the time is 80% (in other words, way more) responsible.

The other 80% is probably just what they were doing before they started the 20% of keto. I don't think that's what made the change.

If that were so, then I would've expected them to say "helped me lose X pounds in ~2 months".

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Great Work! that's awesome you could change your diet to a healthy one. These days there's such a huge stigma against eating healthily and responsibly, especially from friends and family.

Yeah, it’s bizarre. The topic of diet has a lot in common with religion. The research is so murky and poorly conducted and everything is a contradiction, so people have a tendency to just pick a “team” and form beliefs around that. Team Vegan, Team Vegetarian, Team Keto, Team Paleo. If you’re on a different team, you’re an attack on their dietary beliefs. If you’re on any team, you’re a pain in the ass to anyone who…

Check NCBI and Pubmed. There's a lot going for ketosis and certain vegetarian diets, backed by good research.

Not saying there aren't an abundance of diet fads that find roosts the minds of uncritical hopefuls (like anything else, really), but being more conscious of what you eat and how you feel is a good thing. If the diet seems zany and tenuous but promotes portion control and variety to people who've been feeding themselves and their families out of cans and whatever is closest and cheapest, I'd tolerate if not encourage their new interest.

Some people's enthusiasms are just difficult to put up with day in and day out, whatever they might be. But in the grand scheme of it, I'd rather they be obsessed with salads than Scentsy.

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