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Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by stanmancan »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #24
Someone1234 wrote: post #13

This is one reason why the Roku is such a great streaming platform, they're neutral. You can receive VUDU (Walmart), Prime Video (Amazon), and YouTube/Play Movies (Google). The only thing you cannot receive is Apple's ecosystem (but no non-Apple streaming hardware can as far as I know). Same reason why Spotify is so prevalent, they too are neutral in this war between titans. I have no sympathy for Google or Amazon in…

I may be wrong but Google can block itself from being shown on Roku right? It seems weird to call Roku neutral when it's not them but Google calling the shots.

I think the ideas is that Google has less of a reason to block Youtube on the Roku because they don't compete in any meaningful way.

Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by wang_li »

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #19
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

Know where I can still watch both Youtube and Amazon Video? On my ten year-old Playstation 3.

Interestingly enough, my Blu-Ray player lost Youtube access at some point because the vendor stopped pushing updates and Google changed the API. I don't blame Google, nor do I blame the hardware vendor - I don't expect my devices to receive software updates forever, and I don't expect Google to keep the same API forever either.

And yet, somehow, you could buy a TV appropriate to your country from any television manufacturer and you could receive programming from a range of different television broadcasters for seventy years.

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Post by slobotron »

Mister_Snuggles wrote: post #19
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

Know where I can still watch both Youtube and Amazon Video? On my ten year-old Playstation 3.

Interestingly enough, my Blu-Ray player lost Youtube access at some point because the vendor stopped pushing updates and Google changed the API. I don't blame Google, nor do I blame the hardware vendor - I don't expect my devices to receive software updates forever, and I don't expect Google to keep the same API forever either.

iPad 1st gen built in YouTube app (iOS 5) is also out of commission. Probably cause they couldn't show ads on that API version.

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Post by dr1337 »

ericand wrote: post #15

Can we advance some kind of peace treaty? Google's philosophy is to "put users first and the rest will follow" [0] Amazon wants to be the world's most customer centric company. [1] - [0] https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/the-google-wa... - [1] https://www.amazon.jobs/working/working-amazon

The only thing both companies have in common is to grow and extract as much profits as possible.

Maybe it helps them sleep better at night but don't fall for the corporate PR BS that they're changing the world for the better.

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Post by chejazi »

chickenfries wrote: post #26
ericand wrote: post #15

Can we advance some kind of peace treaty? Google's philosophy is to "put users first and the rest will follow" [0] Amazon wants to be the world's most customer centric company. [1] - [0] https://www.safaribooksonline.com/library/view/the-google-wa... - [1] https://www.amazon.jobs/working/working-amazon

Well, seemed like you worked for both of them, maybe you should write a couple letters.

For posterity, profile reads:

> Former Google and AWS product manager.

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Post by niftich »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #24
Someone1234 wrote: post #13

This is one reason why the Roku is such a great streaming platform, they're neutral. You can receive VUDU (Walmart), Prime Video (Amazon), and YouTube/Play Movies (Google). The only thing you cannot receive is Apple's ecosystem (but no non-Apple streaming hardware can as far as I know). Same reason why Spotify is so prevalent, they too are neutral in this war between titans. I have no sympathy for Google or Amazon in…

I may be wrong but Google can block itself from being shown on Roku right? It seems weird to call Roku neutral when it's not them but Google calling the shots.

Google can block YouTube wherever it wishes because their YouTube clients are either:

- first-party, so they make them on platforms where they wish to be present on, and conversely withdraw from platforms on which they no longer wish to be present; or,

- third-party, such they are bound by the YouTube API Services Terms of Service [1], which reserves their right to terminate any client for specifically enumerated reasons, or any or no reason at all.

[1] https://developers.google.com/youtube/terms/api-services-ter...

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Post by unethical_ban »

mey wrote: post #25
Someone1234 wrote: post #13

This is one reason why the Roku is such a great streaming platform, they're neutral. You can receive VUDU (Walmart), Prime Video (Amazon), and YouTube/Play Movies (Google). The only thing you cannot receive is Apple's ecosystem (but no non-Apple streaming hardware can as far as I know). Same reason why Spotify is so prevalent, they too are neutral in this war between titans. I have no sympathy for Google or Amazon in…

Amazon just pulled Twitch from Roku

Oh my God, how very crappy of Amazon to do this?

Re: Google Blocks YouTube Access from Amazon's Streaming Devices

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Post by firloop »

TruthSHIFT wrote: post #18
acchow wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed this absolutely sucks. Amazon fired the first shots tho. This is their fault and they should put Google products back up on their store.

What did Amazon do?

Amazon took all products that can't stream Amazon content off their store.

Google Cast players can't stream Amazon content because Amazon hasn't implemented the Cast SDK in their app.

Amazon doesn't implement the Cast SDK because their flavor of Android eschews Google Play Services which is required for the Cast SDK on Android.

Google doesn't license the Google Play Services to Amazon because....

We can go around for a while...

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