Apple is sharing your facial wireframe with apps

Post by mrguyorama » Mon, Dec 04, 2017, 8:29 PM UTC

Osmium wrote: post #29

yeldarb wrote: post #27

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@braddwyer is me :) It gives you about 15 fps of depth data

Haha, cool! Hi :) Given the small size of the laser projector, I imagine natural movement from the phone being hand-held would result in significant displacement of the projected dots over a 1s interval? Have you tried integrating the 15 frames to see what it looks like?

Post by artursapek » Mon, Dec 04, 2017, 8:34 PM UTC

dmart wrote: post #50

You know how some F2P games will allow you to watch video ads in order to e.g. earn extra in-game currency, activate a point multiplier, etc? As it stands, you can start one of these ads and then turn your phone upside down, or look away. How long until an advertising provider makes use of the attention API and makes it so that you can't look away? Seems bleak.

Post by pmontra » Mon, Dec 04, 2017, 8:48 PM UTC

_puk wrote: post #62

pmontra wrote: post #25

The FaceID camera is infrared and can see in the dark [1]. According to the Post "Once you give it permission, an active app keeps on having access to your face until you delete it or dig into advanced settings. There’s no option that says, “Just for the next five minutes.”" So a random developer can (kind of) look at us when we turn the light off. Not only that, those cameras work also in the sunlight. You can go on…

"Once you give it permission, an active app keeps on having access to your face” Isn’t the definition of an active app, one that is open and in the foreground? The minute the phone sleeps, or the app is put into the background, access becomes more at Apple’s discretion. I’d expect an app running in the foreground to be able to keep using the camera as long as needed.. Or is your point more: allowing once allows it ev…

Post by bluetidepro » Mon, Dec 04, 2017, 8:53 PM UTC

bcyn wrote: post #51

dmart wrote: post #50

You know how some F2P games will allow you to watch video ads in order to e.g. earn extra in-game currency, activate a point multiplier, etc? As it stands, you can start one of these ads and then turn your phone upside down, or look away. How long until an advertising provider makes use of the attention API and makes it so that you can't look away? Seems bleak.

"15 Million Credits" from Black Mirror vibes there.

Post by luxuryballs » Mon, Dec 04, 2017, 8:59 PM UTC

dejawu wrote: post #65

Something alarming occurred to me: Apple has to be saving all of the faces of people who come into Apple stores and do the Face ID demo. There's no reason for them not to do that, they'd be leaving good data on the table otherwise.