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Tell me again how FaceID will be "so much more secure" than TouchID - when Apple itself is sharing those 3D facial profiles with third-party vendors (and governments). In practice , fingerprint readers should still remain significantly more secure than any facial recognition technology.
I've been playing with the TrueDepth Camera APIs on the iPhone X. Some things I've noticed: 1) The ARKit "Face Mesh" seems to be a standard model that is scaled and skewed to fit your face (for example, it ignores glasses, still works if you put your hand in front of your face, etc). It is _not_ a 3D scan. 2) The "TrueDepth" data is not really all that granular. It seems similar to the depth map you get from the rear…
#3 is mistaken. https://www.imore.com/yes-animoji-uses-truedepth-camera-syst...
> The reason for the misconception comes from the implementation: The IR system only (currently) fires periodically to create and update the depth mask. The RGB camera has to capture persistently to track movements and match expressions. In other words, cover the IR system and the depth mask will simply stop updating and likely, over time, degrade. Cover the RGB, and the tracking and matching stops dead.
"...likely, over time, degrade."
1) He doesn't know.
2) It's Animoji, so why would it matter if it did degrade? There is already a stock 3D image of the Poop. It simply needs the RGB camera to track where your facial features are.
Tell me again how FaceID will be "so much more secure" than TouchID - when Apple itself is sharing those 3D facial profiles with third-party vendors (and governments). In practice , fingerprint readers should still remain significantly more secure than any facial recognition technology.
Am I being an alarmist or is it reasonable to be concerned about this?
I'm honestly less worried about Apple than others. They've at least made some measures to prove that they are willing to go some distance to protect privacy, even losing ground to competitors in voice recognition. Now thinking about co's like Facebook that not only has access to far more imagery of faces tied to sentiments and moments but have shown time and time again that privacy is a secondary concern AND that the…
According to the Post "Once you give it permission, an active app keeps on having access to your face until you delete it or dig into advanced settings. There’s no option that says, “Just for the next five minutes.”"
So a random developer can (kind of) look at us when we turn the light off. Not only that, those cameras work also in the sunlight. You can go on YouTube and search "clothes transparent to infrared". Not much, especially considering that the app is not getting a real image, but still somebody will be uncomfortable with that.
However there also legit and interesting applications for infrared cameras and they've been on sale for a long time. What's changing is the number of those cameras that are getting around.
[1] https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/13/how-iphone-x-face-id-wo...
Tell me again how FaceID will be "so much more secure" than TouchID - when Apple itself is sharing those 3D facial profiles with third-party vendors (and governments). In practice , fingerprint readers should still remain significantly more secure than any facial recognition technology.
Apps get a coarse depth map - this cannot be used to replicate your face in perfect 3D, nor can it be used to bypass FaceID.
I've been playing with the TrueDepth Camera APIs on the iPhone X. Some things I've noticed: 1) The ARKit "Face Mesh" seems to be a standard model that is scaled and skewed to fit your face (for example, it ignores glasses, still works if you put your hand in front of your face, etc). It is _not_ a 3D scan. 2) The "TrueDepth" data is not really all that granular. It seems similar to the depth map you get from the rear…
> 2) The "TrueDepth" data is not really all that granular. It seems similar to the depth map you get from the rear-facing cameras on the "plus" sized models. Here's what the sensor data spits out: https://twitter.com/braddwyer/status/930682879977361408 As @braddwyer himself notes, you can probably get a much better mesh integrating over time. It depends how long it takes to capture a single frame, but I imagine that'…
It gives you about 15 fps of depth data
I've been playing with the TrueDepth Camera APIs on the iPhone X. Some things I've noticed: 1) The ARKit "Face Mesh" seems to be a standard model that is scaled and skewed to fit your face (for example, it ignores glasses, still works if you put your hand in front of your face, etc). It is _not_ a 3D scan. 2) The "TrueDepth" data is not really all that granular. It seems similar to the depth map you get from the rear…
#3 is mistaken. https://www.imore.com/yes-animoji-uses-truedepth-camera-syst...
I was really surprised how well it does even when covering up the IR sensor prior to opening the app.
I don't doubt that they are using the IR data to improve things. But it does "good enough" without.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 2) The "TrueDepth" data is not really all that granular. It seems similar to the depth map you get from the rear-facing cameras on the "plus" sized models. Here's what the sensor data spits out: https://twitter.com/braddwyer/status/930682879977361408 As @braddwyer himself notes, you can probably get a much better mesh integrating over time. It depends how long it takes to capture a single frame, but I imagine that'…
@braddwyer is me :) It gives you about 15 fps of depth data
Given the small size of the laser projector, I imagine natural movement from the phone being hand-held would result in significant displacement of the projected dots over a 1s interval? Have you tried integrating the 15 frames to see what it looks like?