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Re: My offer numbers from big companies

#81

Jesus christ, $50k as a sign on bonus. I haven't seen anything like that in Aus for that sort of experience.

It's good, but a huge chunk of this will be lost to taxes because he's in SV (I know because I live and work here as well, have been in a similar situation, and his numbers are plausible). So it's something to marvel at, but the actual amount going in the bank is much smaller.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

#82

Damn... I guess anyone smart should just stop complaining and find a way into the big co.s... Living in midwest this is insane... :) ...congrats....

You also need to think about what you'd lose if you were to work for a big company. I do not know your current company, so maybe there is nothing to lose.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

#83
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I live in the UK, to me these numbers are insane. How are these salaries at that work experience possible? Is the pay increase from then on slow? Are these salaries sustainable for the industry long term? I know experienced professionals who would be considered successful in the UK who finish their careers nowhere near this level of salary (not programmers but certainly engineers). I’m astounded.

The numbers are meaningless without knowing the cost of living. Here in the Netherlands I also make a lot less (Ph.D. working in bioinformatics) and probably pay a lot more taxes. But my mortgage is my only dept and if I get cancer I can stop working for the treatment and have no other worries than the actual cancer. When I lose my job I can still pay for my house and food and school for both kids. University is abou…

and probably pay a lot more taxes

This is a misconception about the US. Compared to Europe, engineers tend to proportionally pay as much taxes, and sometimes even a bit more (!) in the US.

You get tremendously LESS for your taxes though, both at the city/state level and national level.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Switzerland my salary is a lot less (in terms of numbers only). However, I feel like my quality of life is much higher here than it was in the US. You could pay me 300k a year and I'd never want to go back to the Bay Area ever again.

Yeah and I would never want to work in Switzerland. Switzerland is such a hypocritical country it is not even funny. Everyone and their dog is such a rude creature that you cannot even shower at 2.00 am when you arrive from a business trip because it annoys your neighbors. Sure there are quadrillions of other positive things in Switzerland but not all of us would change money for "european social equality lalaland"

Wow. Seems like you feel personally attacked. I noticed that you defend working in the US a lot in this thread... not sure what is up with that. But I hope you can somehow relax about this discussion...

And btw. I never said everyone should live there. I said I do not want to live in the US.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

#85

I live in the UK, to me these numbers are insane. How are these salaries at that work experience possible? Is the pay increase from then on slow? Are these salaries sustainable for the industry long term? I know experienced professionals who would be considered successful in the UK who finish their careers nowhere near this level of salary (not programmers but certainly engineers). I’m astounded.

It's nuts compared to UK money isn't it?

But then the UK pays its programmers peanuts, more or less considers them blue collar, and wonders why it can't retain 'talent', AFAICT.

Re: My offer numbers from big companies

#86
post #34

I live in the UK, to me these numbers are insane. How are these salaries at that work experience possible? Is the pay increase from then on slow? Are these salaries sustainable for the industry long term? I know experienced professionals who would be considered successful in the UK who finish their careers nowhere near this level of salary (not programmers but certainly engineers). I’m astounded.

Well programmed high end robots are a scarce commodity. The reason Facebook needs 5000 robots to run/take care of the data of 1.5 billion people while the Indian or Chinese govt need about 2 million robots says all there needs to be said about the quality of the robot.

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#87
Here in Australia there is no point even being a software engineer. 2 years experience will be 90k base, I don't even know what a sign on or bonus is because we don't even have them, and your wage will rise with inflation. Inflation seems to be a fairly garbage number so I would say your wage goes down each year.

There are plenty of other jobs that are much easier that pay the same. Australia is not an innovative or technology-oriented or entrepreneurial country. Some multinationals mine our land, that is it. It is a bit of a joke country compared to China or the USA.

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#88

> 2. What's your background? > Male. Two years of professional experience. Bachelors. Non-ivy league school. Previously from a unicorn startup . I'm mentioning these because people ask, not that I think they matter. Being an alumni from unicorn startup is my guess on why he got these offers. People are obsessed with salaries and positions which I think is unhealthy. But what I find ironic is that I have always heard…

I'm not sure, I work at one of those companies and the numbers sound about right for 2-4 yrs out of undergraduate.
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