These numbers seem high in absolute value but one must compare Cost of Living (insane in the Bay Area I guess) and insurance costs and other living expenses as well
My offer numbers from big companies
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#62Well this makes me feel terrible... Your sign on was probably for more than I've made in my professional career.
My first job after graduating 10 years ago was for 45k per year.
I have had an awful lot of bad luck since graduating and have yet to be paid more than that since.
Every job I've had paid progressively less, always took them cause I needed the job.
My last programming job paid $14 an hour.
Can anyone offer advice on breaking out of the cycle of terribleness?
I'm a US citizen, bachelors in CS, live in Tx.
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#63I live in the UK, to me these numbers are insane. How are these salaries at that work experience possible? Is the pay increase from then on slow? Are these salaries sustainable for the industry long term? I know experienced professionals who would be considered successful in the UK who finish their careers nowhere near this level of salary (not programmers but certainly engineers). I’m astounded.
Yes it’s sustainable — I remember reading somewhere that Apple could pay every employee almost a million dollars per year and still make a profit. You can do the math yourself, and you will be further blown away by just how wealthy our country and tech industry is. As to how our companies make so much money? I’m sure it’s very complicated, but just look at the US economy and contrast it to more socialist economies as…
In addition to the US having lower taxes and fewer services I think there’s some sort of status thing going on in Europe/the UK with engineer salaries being lower than they’d be otherwise.
Engineers there seem to be viewed as the lower rung on the status ladder compared to management/sales/finance and are paid less on that metric alone. I think the US (particularly Silicon Valley) is better about respecting engineer talent.
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#64I live in the UK, to me these numbers are insane. How are these salaries at that work experience possible? Is the pay increase from then on slow? Are these salaries sustainable for the industry long term? I know experienced professionals who would be considered successful in the UK who finish their careers nowhere near this level of salary (not programmers but certainly engineers). I’m astounded.
In Switzerland my salary is a lot less (in terms of numbers only). However, I feel like my quality of life is much higher here than it was in the US.
You could pay me 300k a year and I'd never want to go back to the Bay Area ever again.
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#65I guess I need to move to Silicon Valley. These numbers are insane for two years and an undergrad degree. I have 32 years experience and I don't get these kinds of offers. This is either complete BS or the guy is a savant. Something smells fishy here.
They seem a bit higher than what I would normally expect for 2 year experience; sometimes a successful startup and some salary negotiations can give you a boost. But recall: $1 USD (SFO) != $1 USD (Almost anywhere else). And there are some other downsides, you work very long hours in a company of 70%+ men. I think quality of life in South Bay for most isn't as nice as much less affluent places. It depends on your cup…
Whoa...such bias. Like working in a company of 70%+ males is a bad thing.
Stop this madness please.
The americans are known for working hard that's not a mystery.
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#66Well this makes me feel terrible... Your sign on was probably for more than I've made in my professional career. My first job after graduating 10 years ago was for 45k per year. I have had an awful lot of bad luck since graduating and have yet to be paid more than that since. Every job I've had paid progressively less, always took them cause I needed the job. My last programming job paid $14 an hour. Can anyone offer…
Regionally: The wealthiest companies pay the highest salaries. In the tech world, those live on the west coast or the east coast. Texas probably isn’t going to give you much room to grow in the tech world.
Some of it is regional, and some of it will depend on what you do. The best salaries will go to the most valuable roles, so you may need to find out how to develop a specialty to make your work more valuable.
$14/hour is really low. I don’t know what exactly you do, but for most programming that’s below the market rate. If you can give me more info I’d be happy to help with advise where I can.
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#67I guess I need to move to Silicon Valley. These numbers are insane for two years and an undergrad degree. I have 32 years experience and I don't get these kinds of offers. This is either complete BS or the guy is a savant. Something smells fishy here.
They seem a bit higher than what I would normally expect for 2 year experience; sometimes a successful startup and some salary negotiations can give you a boost. But recall: $1 USD (SFO) != $1 USD (Almost anywhere else). And there are some other downsides, you work very long hours in a company of 70%+ men. I think quality of life in South Bay for most isn't as nice as much less affluent places. It depends on your cup…
True, but the total compensation here is at or above 250K annually. Most places in the US won't break 100K with 2 years of experience, and the cost of living is less than 2.5x as much. In other words, you still come out well ahead.
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#68https://imgur.com/a/VpCJT Is this for real? This is Ministry of Truth levels of double-speak.
They make you validate your work email, which is then linked to every post you make on the platform :)
This will blow up one day.
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#69I just get a 403 page instead of an article, probably because I browse via a DigitalOcean IP address. If this is enough to get me blocked, that's hilarious given that this company's product is supposed to be "anonymous work talk" - if they like anonymity so much why am I not allowed to browse from whatever IP address I like? EDIT: And furthermore, all it takes to find out if a company uses Blind is to type in the com…
Here're the numbers for those who cannot access the site:
1) Google - 140k base, 100k RSUs, 50k sign on, 15% bonus
2) Facebook - 160k base, 75k RSUs, 75k sign on, 10% bonus
3) Lyft - 165k base, 180k RSUs, 20k sign on
4) Dropbox - 160k base, 115k RSUs, 10k sign on
5) Airbnb - 150k base, 75k RSUs, 15k sign on
6) Palantir - 150k base, 50k stock options, 25k sign on, 25k bonus
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can give you some direct insight on that. First of all, she would have experienced severe gender bias. I don't think it needs an explanation when you consider a demographic of mostly low-to-moderately-educated men in the workforce and everyone living in fairly close quarters. Secondly, the conditions are harsh. You work around 14-hour days in 35-45 degree C heat. This wears out people very quickly. It can get so ho…
The rotation doesn't sound that bad to be frank. The oil and gas industry has been operating that way for decades.
I've seen rosters between 7/9days and 3/4 weeks - It does vary depending on the site. The main difference though, is that oil and gas is literal luxury to working in an iron ore mine... My ex partner used to be a chef on one of the Atwell platforms, and just the difference in food is unbelievable haha.