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Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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Sure, but don’t lie about it. If it’s not need-based, don’t insist it’s need-based.

Ok, lies are unacceptable. To play devil's advocate here: the press and the public do not want to hear that tech companies pay 7 digits of monthly salary to attract some talent. Nor do they want to hear that Universities have to offer merit based scholarships to attract top students, otherwise these students will go elsewhere. Companies advertise their diversity efforts but not the salaries of their executives. Stanf…

Laws, like sausages, cease to inspire respect in proportion as we know how they are made. -- John Godfrey Saxe

It would appear that scholarships follow a similar vein.

Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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post #70

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I don’t know if there are rules against that. I think it’s more an unspoken rule that may have consequences if violated, although I’m fairly certain that’s illegal. The impetus is more on us to be open with each other about salary. It’s only in the company’s best interest for us not to do so.

According to the article, " [Allcock’s report] says the school also tells applicants not to reveal to their classmates the size of their discount. " Unwritten or unspoken, it does need to go.

that seems as illegal as telling your employees that they can't share salaries

Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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The narrative must be maintained, comrade!

A private university, especially privileging students from finance backgrounds, is about as far from communism as it gets.

Actually, no. This reveals the extent to which the US financial industry operates with similar quasi-aristocratic political dynamics - especially covert privilege based on perceived conformity and career potential - as the old Soviet Communist Party.

Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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post #81

> Last year, 12 percent of Stanford MBA graduates were hired by private equity firms, with a median starting salary of $177,500, the article said. Venture capital companies hired 7 percent of them, and paid a median salary $167,500 to the beginners. Wow.. I chose the wrong career track.

>> median salary $167,500 to the beginners It's not all that high, since calling them beginners isn't exactly true [0]. It looks like a decent-sized chunk of the students have years of work experience in finance/consulting/tech and some already have advanced degrees. They weren't going to be paid poorly to begin with. [0] https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/programs/mba/admission/evaluati...

And they got that work experience originally due to internships... which they only got due to elite networking or pedigree

Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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post #83

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you forgot how much a Stanford MBA puts you in debt..

there was someone that had responded to you saying something mocking like "much less than 160k but say whatever makes you feel better" that deleted their comment between when i saw it and when i logged in so i'm replying to you so that that person burns a little inside: there's nothing more priceless than someone being not just wrong but 180 degrees wrong: http://fortune.com/2012/12/07/stanford-mba-price-tag-hits-18.…

You can still see the comment if you turn on being able to see dead comments.

Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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Well, Stanford has a need for future rich donors. Perhaps that’s the need being met?

I'm sure people have done studies. Who donates more money? The poor kids who struggled through life and attended Stanfurd that finallyed opened the doors for him to become rich? Or the blue blood with the silver spoon who would have made it through daddy's connections regardless of which school he went to? I feel the former has stronger gratitude for his school.

Look at the buildings. It's the latter mostly. Big checks dominate in typical pareto fashion.

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Some don't donate due to gratitude, some donate to increase the chances their children will get in, and/or otherwise obtain social signals or networking benefits that can be used to further oneself.

From what I know it's the latter. We had a large percentage of my graduating high school class end up at ivy league schools. It was interesting to talk to them a decade after they had graduated and were in full swing with their professional career's and life. One buddy I know who went to Princeton and ended up on Wall St told me they hound him for donations. His fraternity does the same with the emphasis on exactly w…

As a fellow Princeton grad, I think his children will indeed have a better chance than most of getting in due to their legacy status, resource rich upbringing, and those donations.

Re: Stanford University data glitch exposes truth about scholarships

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there was someone that had responded to you saying something mocking like "much less than 160k but say whatever makes you feel better" that deleted their comment between when i saw it and when i logged in so i'm replying to you so that that person burns a little inside: there's nothing more priceless than someone being not just wrong but 180 degrees wrong: http://fortune.com/2012/12/07/stanford-mba-price-tag-hits-18.…

You can still see the comment if you turn on being able to see dead comments.

thanks!
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