The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
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Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I leave my PC running 24/7 pretty much, so at night I want the monitors turned off so it doesn't illuminate the whole living room (which I can see from the bedroom - it is a small apartment). I used to turn them off with the button on the monitor (when all my monitors were DVI), so if the mouse was moved by accident during the night it wouldn't wake the monitors up. Right now I have to let it go to sleep normally, an…
Every monitor I've owned since the early 2000s will switch itself off (or at least go into a standby state where the screen is entirely off and there's a tiny blinky LED indicating that it's still powered) after a period of inactivity. I know some monitors never give up waiting for a signal but at this point maybe it'd be simpler to treat yourself to a new monitor? Edit: Oh, you're talking about things waking your co…
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I leave my PC running 24/7 pretty much, so at night I want the monitors turned off so it doesn't illuminate the whole living room (which I can see from the bedroom - it is a small apartment). I used to turn them off with the button on the monitor (when all my monitors were DVI), so if the mouse was moved by accident during the night it wouldn't wake the monitors up. Right now I have to let it go to sleep normally, an…
Every monitor I've owned since the early 2000s will switch itself off (or at least go into a standby state where the screen is entirely off and there's a tiny blinky LED indicating that it's still powered) after a period of inactivity. I know some monitors never give up waiting for a signal but at this point maybe it'd be simpler to treat yourself to a new monitor? Edit: Oh, you're talking about things waking your co…
Essentially this is a convenience thing, it used to work perfectly fine, then they added HDCP to make things less convenient.
Like I said, I'd be fine if the software (well Windows in my case) has a switch to disable HDCP and restore the old functionality of always assuming there's a monitor there.
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#64The main thing that has pissed me off with technologies like DisplayPort and HDMI is that I cannot actually turn my monitors off when I'm not using my computer. With DVI I could turn the monitors off and the desktop and applications would stay where they were. With HDMI/Displayport it considers the monitor disconnected, hence re-adjusts the desktop and moves everything around. I would love an option that I could swit…
There are two possibilities: 1. Fake GPU software, which I haven't researched at all but probably exists 2. Forcing your graphics chipset to turn a specific head on and leave it on Here's a Linux-specific example of how to do #2. Since I'm just talking to graphics hardware here, there should be equivalent operations for all of the following for other operating systems. I don't connect an external display at any point…
Xmonad can't do stuff like this because it treats each monitor as a separate virtual screen.
If I wanted a bigger monitor I would of just bought a bigger monitor, dammit …
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've never really understood the desire to use the button on the display to turn off monitors - does allowing the monitors to be switched off by the OS not solve basically the same problem ?
I leave my PC running 24/7 pretty much, so at night I want the monitors turned off so it doesn't illuminate the whole living room (which I can see from the bedroom - it is a small apartment). I used to turn them off with the button on the monitor (when all my monitors were DVI), so if the mouse was moved by accident during the night it wouldn't wake the monitors up. Right now I have to let it go to sleep normally, an…
and flip the mouse or just run it on loop every minute or so. works for me.
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#66PSA: It's about this "KVM": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch Not this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#67KVM switches used to be a huge and super important (and expensive) thing in rack server farms back when every rack or every few racks had a pull-out tray with a keyboard and a monitor. Technology moved on. First the tray and monitor disappeared with KVM-over-IP, which saved many trips to the server room. Then the KVM switches themselves disappeared, as manufacturers integrated out-of-band remote access into the serve…
> Cut a HDMI cable in half and splay it out, then try switching that to another display. See what happens. If you took an ancient (but still available to buy) 25-pin 'parallel port' 4-port switch box with a rotary dial: https://photography-909a.kxcdn.com/product-images/03292/600/... And wired up the HDMI of two machines to output ports 1 & 3[1]. Then wired up the HDMI to the display to the input port (so effectively…
The problem you will have is that the signals require high bandwidth and the cables are carefully designed to have low crosstalk, high immunity to noise (both via twisted pairs) and a 100 ohm characteristic (dynamic) impedance (how the cables are constructed, insulation thicknesses, how they are twisted).
DB-25 switches work for simple single ended low frequency signals. The physical switch will wreck havoc with the interpair skew, far-end crosstalk, attenuation and differential impedance.
HDMI 1.3 defines two cable categories: Category 1-certified cables, which have been tested at 74.5 MHz (which would include resolutions such as 720p60 and 1080i60), and Category 2-certified cables, which have been tested at 340 MHz (which would include resolutions such as 1080p60 and 2160p30). Category 1 HDMI cables are marketed as "Standard" and Category 2 HDMI cables as "High Speed". This labeling guideline for HDMI cables went into effect on October 17, 2008. Category 1 and 2 cables can either meet the required parameter specifications for interpair skew, far-end crosstalk, attenuation and differential impedance, or they can meet the required nonequalized/equalized eye diagram requirements. [1]
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#68I'd guess the comment about HDCP is onto something. To build a KVM switch that works with modern displays without weird errors, it probably has to be an active HDMI/HDCP endpoint on its own - which means a vendor would either need to get its own sets of keys and do additional work to enforce all DRM restrictions - or they'd have to use leaked keys and prepare to get sued in an instant. Even without HDCP, I remember a…
Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#69Re: The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
The easiest solution is to just buy an HDMI switch(there's loads of them, even ones which work with 4K signal, and they don't disrupt DHCP) and a USB switch. Total solution should fit in about 40-50 dollars.
Are there any that don't suck bogwater? We've tried a handful for our conference rooms, and they are all universally flaky, with signal dropping randomly all the time.
And once you plug in a dedicated 5V power supply they are rock solid.