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or "one of the many groups gaming digg has been caught"
This. Others game social media sites to drive traffic to sites that profit them. This is the first I've heard of people doing it for political reasons though.
This is slightly off topic, but why do people do things like this? I don't understand why anyone would go to such lengths to do something like this. I just don't get it. I see people around me fighting over parking spaces. I see people holding conferences on how to fight over parking spaces (that guy is muscling in!). I see people do the same for roughly every damn topic in this world, and sometimes it gets really me…
Parking spaces? Because they want to park and people can be intimidated by violence into giving up a preferential space.
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You may be certain, but so far a year long undercover investigation has yet to prove there is an elite cabal of liberals desperately manipulating information in an attempt to skew towards their viewpoint. Or, perhaps, the feeling that conservative content is underrepresented is because of something more benign -- maybe more liberals visit Digg than conservatives?
A yearlong investigation to uncover a voting ring on Digg isn't impressive, it's bloody incompetence . It shouldn't have taken more than a week, if that. I left Digg, gosh, three, four years ago now, because it was pretty obvious even then that Digg was basically just a collection of voting cabals of various levels of interconnectedness. People were writing articles about it and stuff. People were writing how-to arti…
And that this whole right-wing conspiracy might amount to a bunch of people pumping up their egos while basically spinning their wheels?
Just sayin'...
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Well the main reddits have a sharp liberal bias. When people from other subreddits who don't conform to this view speak up they tend to get smacked down pretty hard and quick.
I think it's both Liberal and Libertarian. And Ron Paul is quite popular there. Also, there's still a difference between something that happens there and what the Digg Patriots are doing in that they are conspiring to game the system. There's no such equivalent thing going on at Reddit. Edit: I think we see the natural split of progressive v. libertarian on reddit, and both parties are represented very well. Perhaps…
As far as we know.
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Happens here too. If you've ever wondered how a certain austrian entrepreneur always manages to garner enough votes to put him on the front page even when the material doesn't support it...
No, but I often wonder how a thinly veiled personal attack gets multiple upvotes.
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Maybe... At least I've got the impression that on HN reactions are way more professional, I see people here actually listening to the arguments of others and that's the least you need to keep things quiet. Most people here keep extremism out here anyway. Emotional arguments don't succeed to gain traction, you have to be factual and nuanced to gain respect here, and as far as I see blind extremism doesn't get that far…
Yeah, reddit started that way too. It doesn't last long.
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A yearlong investigation to uncover a voting ring on Digg isn't impressive, it's bloody incompetence . It shouldn't have taken more than a week, if that. I left Digg, gosh, three, four years ago now, because it was pretty obvious even then that Digg was basically just a collection of voting cabals of various levels of interconnectedness. People were writing articles about it and stuff. People were writing how-to arti…
So given that it was an obvious problem 3-4 years ago, do you think it might be possible that Digg, Inc. might have recognized the problem and done something about it? And that this whole right-wing conspiracy might amount to a bunch of people pumping up their egos while basically spinning their wheels? Just sayin'...
In fact Digg and a couple of other technologies taught me the foolishness of "power to the people". You don't want to democratize every site on the internet. You want to allow a million flowers to bloom, everyone to have their say but in their own space that they control. This produces a much healthier environment. It pisses off some people that their soapbox doesn't grow as large as they believe it should by virtue of their obvious innate greatness, but I've come to see this as a feature, not a bug.
pretty sure the headline here should say "Extremist group succeeds in gaming Digg"
I am certain a left leaning group is doing the same thing. Think moveon.org (in a different medium). They just negate each others extreme views.
Obama: "I'm trying to fix healthcare" Republicans: "He's trying to kill your grandmother"
Washington Post: "Obama, Republicans disagree over whether healthcare plan will mandate euthanasia"
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The right-wing is well-entrenched, so 'progressive' is not always that progressive. You have to give up a little ground to avoid looking psycho.
On the other hand, America is much more statist/socialistic in some regards than they like to admit. E.g. the state gives lots of support for home ownership, including government sponsored mortgage guarantees. Or the power of all those crazy unions. Nominally more social-democratic Germany or Scandinavia look tame by comparison on those aspects.
Both of which has bankrupted many states..and the auto industry (union power).