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Extremist group tries to game Digg

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Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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or "one of the many groups gaming digg has been caught"

This. Others game social media sites to drive traffic to sites that profit them. This is the first I've heard of people doing it for political reasons though.

Happens here too. If you've ever wondered how a certain austrian entrepreneur always manages to garner enough votes to put him on the front page even when the material doesn't support it...

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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What they fail to understand is that there was never a conspiracy to censor their content, it was the greater Digg community that did that because their articles are usually unprofessional, fact-challenged fantasies that nobody wants to read. They should probably have asked a conservative. It's hard to tell whether these folks were submitting quality stories with a different slant, or were actively submitting crap. O…

This kind of stuff (both sides) is why politics should be kept as far as possible away from Hacker News.

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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What they fail to understand is that there was never a conspiracy to censor their content, it was the greater Digg community that did that because their articles are usually unprofessional, fact-challenged fantasies that nobody wants to read. They should probably have asked a conservative. It's hard to tell whether these folks were submitting quality stories with a different slant, or were actively submitting crap. O…

This kind of stuff (both sides) is why politics should be kept as far as possible away from Hacker News.

Maybe... At least I've got the impression that on HN reactions are way more professional, I see people here actually listening to the arguments of others and that's the least you need to keep things quiet.

Most people here keep extremism out here anyway. Emotional arguments don't succeed to gain traction, you have to be factual and nuanced to gain respect here, and as far as I see blind extremism doesn't get that far.

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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This kind of stuff (both sides) is why politics should be kept as far as possible away from Hacker News.

Maybe... At least I've got the impression that on HN reactions are way more professional, I see people here actually listening to the arguments of others and that's the least you need to keep things quiet. Most people here keep extremism out here anyway. Emotional arguments don't succeed to gain traction, you have to be factual and nuanced to gain respect here, and as far as I see blind extremism doesn't get that far…

Yeah, reddit started that way too. It doesn't last long.

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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I don't think they cancel each other out. Digg has an extremely conservative bias. Half the stories on the front page are basically "Global Warming Is A Hoax Because Jesus Wouldn't Let That Happen"

Yeah as a user since 2007, it went noticeably conservative in the last year or so (which is when many of us moved to Reddit). And it's not just conservative leaning but really pointed partisan stuff. I hope they can figure out a way to solve this sort of thing going forward. And I'm curious if their choice of either digg/bury instead of upvote/downvote makes it easier to game. I believe it does, as these folks haven'…

Well the main reddits have a sharp liberal bias. When people from other subreddits who don't conform to this view speak up they tend to get smacked down pretty hard and quick.

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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When people in the US talk about liberal media bias, the frame of reference is the average US voter's leanings. By that standard, dominant news sources (the incumbents, the ones considered most credible) are inarguably left biased. Some ridiculously high percentage of newspaper reporters, like 90%, vote for the Democrat (or other third party left leaning candidate) in every election. While this particular point isn't…

I think Stephen Colbert said it best: reality has a liberal bias.

Personally I don't find these kind of statements that useful. I think it would be more accurate (and hopefully cause less instinctual defensiveness) to say that the politics in the US is extreme right vs center right, so one should expect most educated people to gravitate to the true middle, which puts them on the US "left".

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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That's nothing, you should see what rabid Erlang fans can do when they're bored.

I don't know what it is, but I'm guessing it's MASSIVELY PARALLEL AND MUNCITONAL.

I hadn't come across 'munctional' before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yH_j8-VVLo

I don't know whether to thank you or not. :)

Re: Extremist group tries to game Digg

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pretty sure the headline here should say "Extremist group succeeds in gaming Digg"

I am certain a left leaning group is doing the same thing. Think moveon.org (in a different medium). They just negate each others extreme views.

False equivalence. Because there happen to be two parties in the US does not mean there have to be two groups trying to censor Digg. Also leftists could never agree to this shit, we're not organized (pun intended).
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