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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by a_imho »

userbinator wrote: post #54
chrstphrhrt wrote: post #22

Anyone have thoughts on the opt-out telemetry default? I had to read the privacy notice they open on start to find out that telemetry was enabled by default.

Unfortunately telemetry is everywhere now, and it disgusts me greatly. Personally, I find the idea that software should continuously phone home about its use, and this silent data collection/monitoring, extremely abhorrent. Some apps that really do not need to interact with the network at all do it, and those can be easily firewalled, but not so with a browser. Edit: Wow, downvotes for opposing pervasive telemetry. N…

I'm with you and would go a step further, if anything ad/tracking blocking should be opt-out for any pro consumer browser.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by trumbitta2 »

pitaj wrote: post #157
trumbitta2 wrote: post #51

I'll stop using Chrome for work (UX Engineer) and personal use when safari mobile, chrome for iOS, and chrome for Android will each become Firefox. A browser I'm the only one using, has no use for me.

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that you want Firefox mobile to be the default browser? Firefox mobile is available on Android and also on iOS, though the iOS variant is only a wrap around Safari because of Apple's walked garden.

I mean that I work with my browser and I write web applications.

Chrome is more than dominant, so I'll use Chrome because my users use - for the most part - Chrome.

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Post by imron »

nasredin wrote: post #279
imron wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's impossible to get on board now To be fair people said the same thing thing to Apple when they decided to enter the phone market

The "smartphone" was still in its infancy back then. Today the technology is mature enough, so it's more about the (small) gimmicks like fingerprint scanners.

All the innovations the iPhone had were also called gimmicks by industry leaders at the time.

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Post by DaniFong »

DaniFong wrote: post #176

Night Mode!!!

Ugh, the journalist jumped the gun, there is no native night mode.

Firefox, hear my plea, help my night browsing eyes, I have too large a screen in my VR dome, and your browser, alongside all others, is still blinding, and I do not trust your add ons with all of my data.

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Post by Manishearth »

konart wrote: post #305
Manishearth wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox has about:profiles; they work much the same but don't have as good a UI. I prefer Container Tabs, which basically let you have profiles on a per-tab basis. So you can have some green tabs, some yellow tabs, and some pink tabs, and each is effectively a separate profile cookie-wise. This is a built in feature but I recommend using https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... since it enhance…

They really need to imorove usability of this feature though. At the very least you should be able to move the existing tabs to a given container and add sites to some list to be opened in a given container by default. Right now workflow is too inconvenient.

I believe the original test feature had something like this (maybe I'm misremembering) and the final release didn't. Maybe it's something they plan on polishing up and adding.

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Post by nailer »

mastax wrote: post #84

I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

It helps they have a very, very good product this time around.

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Post by zaro »

So many articles praising the new Firefox. Feels good but I am wondering now, or let's say 2018 when ff will for sure be faster than chrome, will Google change the annoyng notification they show you when you open Google that says browse Internet faster try Chrome? Will they change that to Firefox?

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Post by Certhas »

CapacitorSet wrote: post #238
Certhas wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla is running Firefox adverts in my city. I don't remember seeing browser adverts since the initial chrome push.

For starters, Google Translate has had a Chrome advert for as long as I remember.

Just to make it clear, I was talking about physical billboard adverts.

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Post by gregknicholson »

dingo_bat wrote: post #262
mustacheemperor wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using the new Firefox, I find myself wishing the phone OS project had succeeded. I want something to Android what Quantum is to Chrome. Timing is everything, I wonder if it could have succeeded now.

We'd finally have been free from the shit Google and Apple keep pulling. I'm afraid the mobile train is so long gone that it's impossible to get on board now. Even Microsoft, armed with a solid polished product could not make a dent.

I don't think you necessarily need a large market share. You just need your alternative to be viable for individuals to choose to use. Then if it's better, you'll gain users.

Firefox itself needs large market share, as a bulkhead against sites that work only in {IE6|Chrome}.

Mobile OSes need large enough market share because you have to persuade the proprietors of important services to make their services available on the OS — if those services aren't available, your OS won't have enough utility for most users.

But it is possible to get a large number of services working on an unpopular mobile OS — if there's a common standard that unpopular platforms can make use of, which is good enough for most users — such as web apps.

(For example, DuckDuckGo can succeed or fail on merit, because it's a viable alternative. In the Linux bubble, most apps don't specifically target unpopular distros, but they can make use of the same source code or the same packaging formats.)

So if we want better mobile OSes, we should support interoperability of apps.

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Post by Walkman »

Sylos wrote: post #303
Walkman wrote: post #212

I don't know what's up with the memory usage claims, but on OS X it eats 2x as much as Chrome :o

Maybe see what memory usage is like in a new Firefox profile. That'll be essentially like a factory-reset Firefox, but you can always switch back to your old profile, if it does not change anything. Type "about:profiles" into the URL-bar and from there it should be mostly self-explanatory.

I wiped out Firefox and observed this memory hungriness with a completely clean install with no add-ons whatsoever versus a Fully configured Chrome.
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