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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I never left Firefox, and started when it was Phoenix (beta). I've always been a Firefox and/or native browser guy. On my desktop (Windows10) it's FF with Edge backup. On my laptop (macOS), it's FF and Safari backup. I see each browser as having certain natural incentives and they run this way:

Native browsers (Safari/Edge)- tend to try their best to grant a good user experience all around for the device you bought, so they should never be discarded. Pretty safe for people to just stick to these as a result.

Firefox- user focused on customization, privacy, features (Send to Device, RSS toolbar feeds, etc).

Chrome- focused on Google's best interests. No real privacy guarantee since that's in their profit incentive. Mostly a marketing backed browser, shiny Google adverts on Google services insisting Chrome is what you want.

I tend to recommend native browsers or Firefox, if the user has the inclination towards being a power user. I really can't see a purpose to Chrome, and it's hard to separate truth from fiction because there's a massive boatload of corporate Google fanboys out there that promote everything they create.

I'm more of the anti-profit incentive type, and prefer people simply do what they want to. It's worth considering if no one would build Google Chrome without a for-profit incentive (and it's highly unlikely it would exist without Google existing), then how could it possibly improve things for the better? It doesn't, it serves Google's best interests. Everything that does, are temporarily mutually aligned interests.

Most people don't see this for what it is, and think Google is their friend.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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This is kind of a strange complaint. You’re using Linux but you don’t want to use the version packaged by your distro, yet you’re uncomfortable opening a standard tarball and following the intructions within? Yet you’re complaining that Mozilla didn’t go the extra mile for your obscure situation.

I'm used to the assumption that my package manager is out of date. It usually is (e.g. it still has only OpenCV 2.4). I have a huge pile of PPAs to solve that ...

Ubuntu ships Firefox updates independent of its normal release schedule, so you should always have the latest version there, shortly after the official Firefox release.

But you might want to consider a different distro with more up-to-date packages anyways.

It'll be consistently tested with those more up-to-date packages, so would most likely be more stable than your attempt to rejuvenate Ubuntu LTS or whatever distro you're using exactly.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Oh come on. We've been pushing this since IE6 ruled. :-) Cross browser compability should be easier than ever so it should just be a matter of being a professional developer.

There are a different and arguably smaller set of warts in 2017 compared to 1999 but that doesn't mean that it's easy to reproduce the exact layout, pixel for pixel, across Firefox, Edge, Opera, UC Browser, Safari, Chrome and other browsers in use.

Why is pixel-for-pixel similarity even desired? Is it even true across versions of the same browser, or different user settings (like window size or font size)?

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

And right at the time of year when techies are going home for the holidays to do tech support. Brilliant!

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> it's impossible to get on board now To be fair people said the same thing thing to Apple when they decided to enter the phone market

The "smartphone" was still in its infancy back then. Today the technology is mature enough, so it's more about the (small) gimmicks like fingerprint scanners.

Fingerprint scanners changed the game again for me. Saves countless times of typing the pin code over and over.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> The tabs don't hang in the top left corner but there's some space. Which is configurable.

It is? I've been trying to figure out how to get rid of this, but Googling various combinations of "remove space to left of tabs Firefox 57" has not yielded anything helpful.

I think, it should be Configurable under Customize and then one of the checkboxes at the bottom.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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> The tabs don't hang in the top left corner but there's some space. Which is configurable.

It is? I've been trying to figure out how to get rid of this, but Googling various combinations of "remove space to left of tabs Firefox 57" has not yielded anything helpful.

May not be exactly what you're looking for, but under the Customize menu, you can toggle the Title Bar.

This adds a macOS-style title bar and flushes the tabs to the left of the window.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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I always used all four major browsers, as I do need to do web development occasionally.

However Firefox has always been the default browser since the days it was Netscape Navigator.

Mozilla is the only organization whose agenda is done in the name of the consumers.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Kudos to Mozilla for the new Firefox. I really like it! Though I'm quite sure I won't switch from Safari, since I don't want to exercise my fans anymore. Tried Firefox Quantum and it really feels fast, but it's still on top of my "significant energy" battery list. When I think about it it would be really hard to beat a native GUI browser with something made for cross-platform, so I feel a bit desperate.

I think, there's still some bug that's draining abnormal amounts of battery on macOS for some people, so maybe do check back in a few months or so.
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