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Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by username223 »

icebraining wrote: post #237
pests wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what vim_coder and ConputerGuru meant was that Firefox would present a spoofed list of supported codecs to YouTube to force selection of the higher bandwidth, lower-powered codec. Just because Firefox technically supports a format doesn't mean it has to disclose that format to external servers for selection.

Having custom behaviors for specific sites is a terrible practice. Browsers are complex enough as they are without an extra layer of hacks.

It seems just about the same as having custom behaviors for specific user agents. Sadly, that's how things work these days.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by dingo_bat »

mustacheemperor wrote: post #213
mastax wrote: post #84

I'm surprised at the success of Mozilla's PR push for this. It seems the time is right for this. Probably helps that tech sites seem to compete to have an article on every "current" topic.

Using the new Firefox, I find myself wishing the phone OS project had succeeded. I want something to Android what Quantum is to Chrome. Timing is everything, I wonder if it could have succeeded now.

We'd finally have been free from the shit Google and Apple keep pulling. I'm afraid the mobile train is so long gone that it's impossible to get on board now. Even Microsoft, armed with a solid polished product could not make a dent.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by dingo_bat »

eitland wrote: post #104
Certhas wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla is running Firefox adverts in my city. I don't remember seeing browser adverts since the initial chrome push.

Does Chrome spam on the google home page count? I've heard that is one of the most valuable ad spots in the world and I've seen a lot of Chrome ads there.

> I've heard that is one of the most valuable ad spots in the world

Yeah since they literally won't sell that spot, I'd say it's worth billions of dollars.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by Sylos »

ac2u wrote: post #224
cageface wrote: post #221

The welcome resurgence of Firefox makes Apple’s ban on third party browser engines on iOS even less justifiable. This is about control, not security.

It does give them enviable control, but the security is a valid point. A browser engine has a wide surface area for attack vectors as it features multiple parsers and a JS engine.

Right, but does a monoculture actually help that in any way? It's not like Apple is always at the forefront of innovation with WebKit.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by richardknop »

TAForObvReasons wrote: post #168
eitland wrote: post #113

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Oh come on. We've been pushing this since IE6 ruled. :-) Cross browser compability should be easier than ever so it should just be a matter of being a professional developer.

There are a different and arguably smaller set of warts in 2017 compared to 1999 but that doesn't mean that it's easy to reproduce the exact layout, pixel for pixel, across Firefox, Edge, Opera, UC Browser, Safari, Chrome and other browsers in use.

Nobody cares about pixel for pixel perfection. But as a professional developer you should make sure that functionally it works in all major browsers.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by amjd »

bakhy wrote: post #236
subbz wrote: post #187

Firefox is a great browser, but what bothers me: - Design: On Windows it integrates better but on MacOS the header is just somehow ugly. Chrome just feels more stable in this point. Also the scrolling to top when Chrome goes over the 0px line and bounces back - that's just a nicer behaviour. - Clearing history and cookies: I yet didn't manage to find a fast solution to do this in Firefox. Please, dear Firefox team, i…

Ctrl+Shift+Del

Or Cmd + Shift + Del on macOS. It can't get any faster than this.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by the8472 »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #254
icebraining wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having custom behaviors for specific sites is a terrible practice. Browsers are complex enough as they are without an extra layer of hacks.

Who said anything about custom behavior for custom sites? A simple “on battery? X264/265 only” is what’s being discussed here.

That does not work because the browser that does not know how much it can reduce the presented feature-set without actually breaking the site. Some content is vpx-only.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by injvstice »

_keats wrote: post #196
injvstice wrote: post #92

Apparently they still didn't fix the issue with edit boxes and dark themes on linux. There are two things that keep me on Chromium - that, and the ability to appify a website.

The dark text boxes can be fixed by doing a bit of configuration editing[0], not ideal I'll admit but it goes a long way to making it usable on linux. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/firefox#Unreadable_inpu...

Or they could just fix the bug, and show they give a damn.

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by _ZeD_ »

OJFord wrote: post #209
spystath wrote: post #18

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You'd think that a technology-oriented magazine like wired would at least try to aim for cross-browser compatibility in their infrastructure. But why bother, make your CMS Chrome-only a policy and free yourself of extra testing. And it's not only wired. I've come across a lot of internal sites and intranets that are poorly tested on anything but Chrome. I know, it's not exactly the same thing as the old IE/ActiveX bu…

At least it's Chrome.

How is this better than those ie-only solutions?

Re: Ciao, Chrome: Firefox Quantum Is the Browser Built for 2017

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Post by notatoad »

firloop wrote: post #65
Grazester wrote: post #61

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Closed off how if I may ask? Is it not free for anyone to implement in their applications?

To implement Cast support in an application, you have to link a closed source binary to your project. Google only provides binaries for iOS and Android (via Play Services), and has a closed source implementation in Chrome.

doesn't cast implement the dial protocol, which is open?

http://www.dial-multiscreen.org/

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